"Its so ego to comment on some elses ego. its 2016 get over yourself its so old to comment on some one elses ego. not commenting on anyones ego is the new black wear it and be in permanent style." ~benjamin couwenberg
EGO:
let me tell you something about ego infant humans. if you have house with a lot of things made out of stuff like antiques and just endless crap and you think you have no ego then rest assured you are at the least largely if not completely your 3rd dimensional ego.
Its like this lady linda i was living with last year she had crap everywhere, and i said to her we all have ego and she said no ben i dont have an ego.. and i stood shocked lol, because i understood already then that if you think your ego less it means you are identified completely as your ego.
In other words you are one of these 3D people im always talking about, however it does not necessarily mean your an organic portal since there are sleepy souled humans lulled and inured into the matrix.
SO i call the ego the hyperspatial fictitious entity at the end of history (the cyclical period pre maximum novelty domain which is now post 2012 post cultural fury) and the ego is the seed of sovereignty you are your own 3rd dimensional zonal reality as are we all, but some of us have synchronicity amongst other mentionable things, synchronicity for instance means you are more than the ego, you have walked into and realized your multidimensional nature, indeed all exist in all dimensions some seem to be stuck in identifications such as 4th dimensional astral emotionalistic dramas or 3rd dimensional habits or 2nd dimensional things made out of stuff materialistic lives slash existences slash mind frames..
Ego's being a separate perspective view point continue to attempt to separate creating things made out of stuff even if it means digging up the dying bones of the world.
i am clearly not my ego as all i do everyday is give to humanity via www.consciousazine.com productions, i do not have a lot of stuff, and i dont work just to satisfy my family or myself, so i realize trying to tell this to a 3d person is like trying to teach a blind man colours but i am giving it a go anyway... see what i do for you..
it would be nice since i am preoccupied giving, to be given.
it really is that simple please donate to the $30 bandit food plant teaching series i shoot on youtube for the whole of humanity every person there is may one day watch these and be boosted.
I understand if you are like me, so souled that you cannot bare to contribute to the sick societies and the black alliances death cult and you have nothing thus things to give, but if you do, if you can spare $30 as a GIFT to me so that i may continue to be a gift to humanity please consider it, for in every moment you are seen by trillions of stars light. obviously you wouldnt be unseen in your grace.
EGO: The fictitious hyper~spatial entity at the end of history: In the man of the modern age, the Ego has become too strong and he must break free. But this he can only do by deepening his knowledge of spiritual happenings, of the world to which the Ego truly belongs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2fr2TnJj-M moving the ego out of the way -William Linville
"Individuation is something different to ego, we glory in our individuality our unique ness, but the ego seeks to empower itself at the expense of other people"~state of the stone lecture , terrence mckenna
"The ego is the surface virus akin to the notion of the beats from the bible"~benjamin couwenberg
If you just almost skipped this note because your all like " i dont have an ego so i dont need to worry about this or read this note" then you are the most in need, if u think along those lines, of i do not even have an ego. that means u r identified as it ! lol so thats the worst ! ego is not just some over excertation of spirit thats the false zeitgeist notion of it, mis terminology obviously cometh via the dark side, because look how dumb. lol.
enlightenment basically means lighting up the dark and i would say due to the times that the ego is needing dissolution as we become one humanity and move past nationality. etc etc. but if u r thinking u do not have ego u r wrong it is Stuart of the body like the ID is for light body, and there is no killing it only via dissolving it. (which u can do with plant or fungi psycehedlics self education self experience styles and 5th dimensional perspecting and/or meditation but thats another story)
oh and another thing i think its like this, i was brought up with this notion of the beast from the bible and last days etc etc in bible indoctrination class in primary school, and so i never bowed to all that mis interpreted stuff and etc, but i noticed the beast refers to like monkey body ego rather than light body chakra system yes? see? and it looks to me asif the beast from the bible now post eschaton 2012 time wave zeros ending the essence concresence genesis singularis grand cycle self realization concretization of spirit and gaian gold ring awakening. asif the beast from the bible is indeed around and i do see the valley of death and they do perpetuate their own sufferings, ugh and it is asif the beast notion from the bible is a real thing and is what i call the surface virus yes with a bit of IT simulacra analogy thrown in there and it is asif this ego thing is part of that beast and may have something to do indeed with a fall into history as terrence mckenna perhaps atply called it; this ego coming out of there for this genesis singularis u see it had to realize itself as a singularity but yet embedded int he whole or the whole somehow etc, now it seems to jump from nervous system to nervous system be negative space orientated that is it is fed less and less power now post eschaton and is a backward looking entity this ego and beast notion from the bible. and so the surface virus u see? seems to jump from nervous system to nervous system and has to do with this ego too.
the ego has to do with the body youknow rather than the light body.
indoctrinations, manners, all ego too u see? dont fool yourself .
for instance;
*“When you recognize that there is a voice in your head that pretends to be you and never stops speaking, you are awakening out of your unconscious identification with the stream of thinking. When you notice that voice, you realize that who you are is not the voice — the thinker — but the one who is aware of it.” Eckhart Tolle
**now a note, everybody who knows me ben couwenberg knows of my big ego, yes its big but necessary and needed, but besides that porous (otherwise i couldnt even channel.. dur) so the thing is and the note here is, that i am very unidentified with it, and this makes it more troublesome to control, my ego is to me like a dog ona chain, which i can let off, which yes i agree i do too often too glibly and too much. i mean i have been a real dick to many people close to me :/ im very sorry ..
however due to my not so identified with my ego nature i am always able to forgive anyone for anything.. i encourage you to be also this porous..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2fr2TnJj-M moving the ego out of the way -William Linville
"Individuation is something different to ego, we glory in our individuality our unique ness, but the ego seeks to empower itself at the expense of other people"~state of the stone lecture , terrence mckenna
"The ego is the surface virus akin to the notion of the beats from the bible"~benjamin couwenberg
If you just almost skipped this note because your all like " i dont have an ego so i dont need to worry about this or read this note" then you are the most in need, if u think along those lines, of i do not even have an ego. that means u r identified as it ! lol so thats the worst ! ego is not just some over excertation of spirit thats the false zeitgeist notion of it, mis terminology obviously cometh via the dark side, because look how dumb. lol.
enlightenment basically means lighting up the dark and i would say due to the times that the ego is needing dissolution as we become one humanity and move past nationality. etc etc. but if u r thinking u do not have ego u r wrong it is Stuart of the body like the ID is for light body, and there is no killing it only via dissolving it. (which u can do with plant or fungi psycehedlics self education self experience styles and 5th dimensional perspecting and/or meditation but thats another story)
oh and another thing i think its like this, i was brought up with this notion of the beast from the bible and last days etc etc in bible indoctrination class in primary school, and so i never bowed to all that mis interpreted stuff and etc, but i noticed the beast refers to like monkey body ego rather than light body chakra system yes? see? and it looks to me asif the beast from the bible now post eschaton 2012 time wave zeros ending the essence concresence genesis singularis grand cycle self realization concretization of spirit and gaian gold ring awakening. asif the beast from the bible is indeed around and i do see the valley of death and they do perpetuate their own sufferings, ugh and it is asif the beast notion from the bible is a real thing and is what i call the surface virus yes with a bit of IT simulacra analogy thrown in there and it is asif this ego thing is part of that beast and may have something to do indeed with a fall into history as terrence mckenna perhaps atply called it; this ego coming out of there for this genesis singularis u see it had to realize itself as a singularity but yet embedded int he whole or the whole somehow etc, now it seems to jump from nervous system to nervous system be negative space orientated that is it is fed less and less power now post eschaton and is a backward looking entity this ego and beast notion from the bible. and so the surface virus u see? seems to jump from nervous system to nervous system and has to do with this ego too.
the ego has to do with the body youknow rather than the light body.
indoctrinations, manners, all ego too u see? dont fool yourself .
for instance;
*“When you recognize that there is a voice in your head that pretends to be you and never stops speaking, you are awakening out of your unconscious identification with the stream of thinking. When you notice that voice, you realize that who you are is not the voice — the thinker — but the one who is aware of it.” Eckhart Tolle
**now a note, everybody who knows me ben couwenberg knows of my big ego, yes its big but necessary and needed, but besides that porous (otherwise i couldnt even channel.. dur) so the thing is and the note here is, that i am very unidentified with it, and this makes it more troublesome to control, my ego is to me like a dog ona chain, which i can let off, which yes i agree i do too often too glibly and too much. i mean i have been a real dick to many people close to me :/ im very sorry ..
however due to my not so identified with my ego nature i am always able to forgive anyone for anything.. i encourage you to be also this porous..
a persons ego pronouncements are so ephemeral it barely makes sense to truly entertain them. It like sucks u in in this way, the surface virus, it makes u play its game, not your game. u see it? ego's is part of the notion from the bible; the beast, which can be understood as a surface virus.
ego is like the absolute impediment to the DOW, if u have any concern of others and what they think of you, the miracle; its blocked.
the sin is pride, its not pure enough, notice and this is WHY the miracles only happen when your alone.
now why is pride sin? because the ego is fictitious, u r earth; u didnt "do" anything.. this is why all the artists know the word channeler. they KNOW that what they do is channel. channel something somewhere it doesnt really matter who or what or whence to most, i encourage you to at least attempt to find out though, and say unto you that that is more important than your art itself... ~benjamin couwenberg site creator www.consciousazine.com
ego is like the absolute impediment to the DOW, if u have any concern of others and what they think of you, the miracle; its blocked.
the sin is pride, its not pure enough, notice and this is WHY the miracles only happen when your alone.
now why is pride sin? because the ego is fictitious, u r earth; u didnt "do" anything.. this is why all the artists know the word channeler. they KNOW that what they do is channel. channel something somewhere it doesnt really matter who or what or whence to most, i encourage you to at least attempt to find out though, and say unto you that that is more important than your art itself... ~benjamin couwenberg site creator www.consciousazine.com
SO, hallo :) ... ok so someone goes to me BEN, you are not as smart as u think u r, i go ok i already knew that, and heres more; BUT if you realize, the one will power that is the will power light of "god" (whoa theres another ficticious entity at the end of history with seeming grapels in physicality ;P) (man is me when he know he is me~god) has to come all the way to the pinnacle existence the ego for it to have been a 'full download' (downloading down through the dimensions is how reality works, you create down through the dimensions). youknow.. very well.. what i speak of.. expressed another simpleton way, lamens terms; 'when u really want something u will get it".
so there. woops im not smart but (though) an cant see shit ey. sorry.
from this we can take;
1 ego is not completely all encompassingly a bad or negative thing.
2. some people are simple. the world notice, is not black and white but multi-coloured. there is more to ego than negative or positive @noobs ignorants,
"Heraclitus said duality is an illusion and people who believe in the duality of the world are ignorant." ha i instantly like this guy :) expresses my ego.
3. "ego is how you know whos mouth to put the spoon in" ~terrence mckenna
*so when i say hyperspatial fictitious entity, i mean pretty synonymously what terrence mkcenna meant when he said always 'the fall into history', torn away from this close relationship with nature' , same notions at play in the background, a disconnection notion. i might have to let this idea develop into better english.
so there. woops im not smart but (though) an cant see shit ey. sorry.
from this we can take;
1 ego is not completely all encompassingly a bad or negative thing.
2. some people are simple. the world notice, is not black and white but multi-coloured. there is more to ego than negative or positive @noobs ignorants,
"Heraclitus said duality is an illusion and people who believe in the duality of the world are ignorant." ha i instantly like this guy :) expresses my ego.
3. "ego is how you know whos mouth to put the spoon in" ~terrence mckenna
*so when i say hyperspatial fictitious entity, i mean pretty synonymously what terrence mkcenna meant when he said always 'the fall into history', torn away from this close relationship with nature' , same notions at play in the background, a disconnection notion. i might have to let this idea develop into better english.
Ben Couwenberg oh and thanks for liking it and letting me know. because i too have an ego which can seemingly block or willingly would like to block the higher self from shining through, out of fear. so i encourage u to always upworthy ppls stuff when u can see it because they too will be discouraged often to say some things, youknow.. due to our backward social thinking. box minds everywhere its an amazing world with people just waiting to be offended.
"Ego is composed of a socialized set of arbitrary boundaries (limitations) that altogether define a person’s inner-identity. These inner-boundaries include values, beliefs and "understandings"- in the sense that people tend to “stand-under” or within these socially-enforced, self-imposed limitations.” John Van Bortel << horizontal ego organic portal dipshits, not yet vertical in their own light column.
ego is never lost stop telling people that u can only make it porous , its on the same spectrum as spirit. watches over body how u know whose mouth to feed. ben from Consciousazine
"Ego is composed of a socialized set of arbitrary boundaries (limitations) that altogether define a person’s inner-identity. These inner-boundaries include values, beliefs and "understandings"- in the sense that people tend to “stand-under” or within these socially-enforced, self-imposed limitations.” John Van Bortel << horizontal ego organic portal dipshits, not yet vertical in their own light column.
ego is never lost stop telling people that u can only make it porous , its on the same spectrum as spirit. watches over body how u know whose mouth to feed. ben from Consciousazine
I always wonder, when someone said they can connect with those on the other side of veil, what they call afterlife. Hmmm.....the 5D is not the same as after life. When one die, where they go depend on kind of soul and on the level of enlightenment. Most souls from Earth are reborn to body again, so how some one can connect them since they are again within the veil of two kinds, personal veil of higher self and the earth one ( that is not existing no more) and the veil or energetic gates that separate those who can not go to 5d of love only. I was always watching the psychic mediums with amusement of how much they can lie about who they are talking to in real time. What if my grandmother is already incarnated and she is not of split soul lol. The problem is that alining with 3 and 4d is never really true. Many beings from those time lines are very miss leading. Unless my grand mom was ascended master, she is most likely back in body.....
Carol Hakala There is no time it as all happening in the now.we (you) can't comprehend.I disagree
Ben Couwenberg the fuck u talking about just because carol cant percieve doesnt mean it isnt.
Jana Szymborski This what came from my kids.....now time line is different for each soul. If one soul is ascended it's time line is aline with prime creator time line. 3d has its own time line and if one can miss use it. Angelic now time line is not the same as human time line of now. That's what I am talking about. Body and soul is two different things.
Ben Couwenberg yeh pretty spot on there hell is re incarnation to get ripped apart, for me a shaman dr... from www.consciousazine.com i do randomly see and talk to spirits my partner veronica runs a paranormal center and she said they are not the same and obviously, but iv always wondered where they are hiding, i suspect 4d is ghost land OR 1D but id say 4d as this is where disincarnates lerk.
Carol Hakala There is no time it as all happening in the now.we (you) can't comprehend.I disagree
Ben Couwenberg the fuck u talking about just because carol cant percieve doesnt mean it isnt.
Jana Szymborski This what came from my kids.....now time line is different for each soul. If one soul is ascended it's time line is aline with prime creator time line. 3d has its own time line and if one can miss use it. Angelic now time line is not the same as human time line of now. That's what I am talking about. Body and soul is two different things.
Ben Couwenberg yeh pretty spot on there hell is re incarnation to get ripped apart, for me a shaman dr... from www.consciousazine.com i do randomly see and talk to spirits my partner veronica runs a paranormal center and she said they are not the same and obviously, but iv always wondered where they are hiding, i suspect 4d is ghost land OR 1D but id say 4d as this is where disincarnates lerk.
Rudolf Steiner and Terrence Mckenna are the only ones I have seen put it like this;
Spirit/Ego~Steiner's work~http://www.garudabd.org/node/49/
see i have this idea that the ego is not all bad, and also i had this idea that will power has to do with ego, and so hence spirit, as i always aligned will power with spirit.
Mckenna i remember also saw ego as something more whole than the indian religions do, rather than just dismissing it as something bad, and or putting it next to a negative idea of mind; as many new agers do.
I also had this idea of the ego being a ficticious hyperspatial entity at the end of the period history's trip or hallucination. and it internalizing into the I'd or light body stuart.
r we confusing ourselves?
however then i think this;
EGO
i think its(at least some part of it) a surface virus, the beast from the bible, jumping from nervous system to nervous system.
Spirit/Ego~Steiner's work~http://www.garudabd.org/node/49/
see i have this idea that the ego is not all bad, and also i had this idea that will power has to do with ego, and so hence spirit, as i always aligned will power with spirit.
Mckenna i remember also saw ego as something more whole than the indian religions do, rather than just dismissing it as something bad, and or putting it next to a negative idea of mind; as many new agers do.
I also had this idea of the ego being a ficticious hyperspatial entity at the end of the period history's trip or hallucination. and it internalizing into the I'd or light body stuart.
r we confusing ourselves?
however then i think this;
EGO
i think its(at least some part of it) a surface virus, the beast from the bible, jumping from nervous system to nervous system.
- Sonja Reijngoudt Nonsense its our own image we try to defend ,the kid youve always been .To protect its innosence we made up a role to play .Simple .
- Jonas Pettersson yeah.. Rudolf Steiner is well worth delving into man..
- Ben Couwenberg so sonja ur interpretation sounds similar to the fictitious hyperspatial entity, i described.
Ana Key: trickquestion : what if ...your ego wants to help humanity - if your ego is an altruist -( Unselfish concern for the welfare of others; selflessness. )is it still a ego? and if you know you need to look after yourself in order to do so.....not cause it makes you feel better - but cause you got some concern for us as a whole -soul?
ben couwenberg: I think this is deep etiology ontology, my field yes, but its deep.. it has to be connotatively approached upon not glibed.
ana iv also asked myself this over a year ago and still havnt received a good answer myself. first u need a good working definition of ego right? otherwise where are we starting at, whats the reference frames.
youknow things have been said such as, "ego is how you know whose mouth to put the food in" . could it be that at the end of history the ego can see whats good for the rest of humanity is gooder for it? so its selfish in its pseudo unselfishness ? (ah more begging the question fallacious arguing ey answer your question with a question i shall! lol)
ego is stuart of the body, ID is stuart of the light body.
The ego; as you embody less and less of an ego, all is love even when others may be casting judgement, looking down on you, or feeding their own egos. We perceive the rest of humanity as we are within. To be damaged within is to see hostility before you in your path, to find the route of wholeness once more is to see the divine within therest of man even when they may be egotistical and foolish beyond fathom. Pause for a moment and consciously take deep breaths, remember you and I are everything, yet all the same still we are nothing. If this is done with enough intellectualized willpower you will realize the beauty and depth of this fact, immediately all the worries about others energy towards you will fade away. No matter how anyone may be vibrating around you, they can only negatively influence your own vibration if you feed it with your consciousness and your intellectualized willpower instead of feeding that consciousness and intellectualized willpower into your reflection of self and that of your ego death.
ben couwenberg: I think this is deep etiology ontology, my field yes, but its deep.. it has to be connotatively approached upon not glibed.
ana iv also asked myself this over a year ago and still havnt received a good answer myself. first u need a good working definition of ego right? otherwise where are we starting at, whats the reference frames.
youknow things have been said such as, "ego is how you know whose mouth to put the food in" . could it be that at the end of history the ego can see whats good for the rest of humanity is gooder for it? so its selfish in its pseudo unselfishness ? (ah more begging the question fallacious arguing ey answer your question with a question i shall! lol)
ego is stuart of the body, ID is stuart of the light body.
The ego; as you embody less and less of an ego, all is love even when others may be casting judgement, looking down on you, or feeding their own egos. We perceive the rest of humanity as we are within. To be damaged within is to see hostility before you in your path, to find the route of wholeness once more is to see the divine within therest of man even when they may be egotistical and foolish beyond fathom. Pause for a moment and consciously take deep breaths, remember you and I are everything, yet all the same still we are nothing. If this is done with enough intellectualized willpower you will realize the beauty and depth of this fact, immediately all the worries about others energy towards you will fade away. No matter how anyone may be vibrating around you, they can only negatively influence your own vibration if you feed it with your consciousness and your intellectualized willpower instead of feeding that consciousness and intellectualized willpower into your reflection of self and that of your ego death.
"ego's only get offended, tellme when your light body ever got offended? its (light body) 5th dimensional.. that doesnt occur.." ~benjamin couwenberg AKA site creator www.consciousazine.com
please ..try NOT to comment and just read it. ok.. just read it.. if u have a:problem (bodycomputer argument) then keep going.. dont dwell
people seem to think they dont have an ego, everybody does.
does anyone even understand ego? or do u think ego is just when u exert yourself. some of u r hopeless philosphers sorry my friends. stick to your day jobs.
i smell rats easy, because they stink. its lika red herring. an outlier.. well read on..
If one does not understand a person, one tends to regard him as a fool.
~carl jung
the growth of the mind is widening of the range of consciousness (sensed stored electrical waves it means really when someone uses the word consciousness in this context, sensed stored electrical waves r not consciousness or conscious of themselves), and .. each step forward has been a most painful and laborious achievement.
The occasional irregularity emerges with those minds willing and able to permit enough uncertainty to beget an awareness of multiplicity. This presupposes a recognition of and participation in a multidimensional reality wherein all dimensions are equally valid aspects of a greater changing whole. Preference for one level over another, at any given time and/or space, is a matter of personal style. If there was a name for this multi-purpose brain function it might be:
Reality Selection...a prerequisite for hearing the
multi-vocal planetary entity.
~geoman
from my note multidimnesionalities, MULTI DIMENSIONAL realization
(this may be where skitzophrenia can set in in choosing higher lower whats this whats that.. take it easy.. choose the higher just to see it it doesnt mean u have to live it (lol! unless thats ur path luls hahaha ..madre is harsh too.. the mother earth, ever heard? 'truth hurts'... ))
Reality Selection...a prerequisite for hearing the
multi-vocal planetary entity.
~geoman
from my note multidimnesionalities, MULTI DIMENSIONAL realization
(this may be where skitzophrenia can set in in choosing higher lower whats this whats that.. take it easy.. choose the higher just to see it it doesnt mean u have to live it (lol! unless thats ur path luls hahaha ..madre is harsh too.. the mother earth, ever heard? 'truth hurts'... ))
ofcourse the universe didnt make a mistake with the ego, its needed and for reason it is, u can even use it like spirit, i even posit it is tethered on the same spectrum as spirit itself.
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TRUST
If you believe you can not trust others, this will be your truth because the world mirrors your beliefs. If you have created from EGO(edge out GOD) because of it's need to control, ego will prove time and again that you and others can not be trusted. This is creating from the lower energies. If on the other hand, you recognize that you create your own reality, you clear out any beliefs that are not in alignment with your spirit.
"If we’re honest with ourselves, every one of us can agree that we’re acquainted with the ego part that controls and manages our lives and eagerly attempts to do the same for others. Be they family, friends, co-workers, or even strangers, ego routinely accepts the job of edging God out and taking on the role of being the master manipulator. As we move in a different direction, we realize the pointlessness of attempting to control any individual or any situation. We recognize this need to practice interference as the power trip of our false self...
With trust, we acknowledge our own wisdom. We remember that we came from the same Source and, therefore, must be like what we came from. We can trust Source to guide us, rather than screw things up with ego’s demands for self-recognition and belief in our superiority. Trust lets us listen rather than take over. Listening allows us to comfortably sit back, knowing that the creative Source of everything is in charge instead of our puny little ego. Shifting from control to trust is so important for our life work." ~ Wayne Dyer
Read More http://www.healyourlife.com/author-dr-wayne-w-dyer/2013/07/wisdom/inspiration/listen-and-trust
If you believe you can not trust others, this will be your truth because the world mirrors your beliefs. If you have created from EGO(edge out GOD) because of it's need to control, ego will prove time and again that you and others can not be trusted. This is creating from the lower energies. If on the other hand, you recognize that you create your own reality, you clear out any beliefs that are not in alignment with your spirit.
"If we’re honest with ourselves, every one of us can agree that we’re acquainted with the ego part that controls and manages our lives and eagerly attempts to do the same for others. Be they family, friends, co-workers, or even strangers, ego routinely accepts the job of edging God out and taking on the role of being the master manipulator. As we move in a different direction, we realize the pointlessness of attempting to control any individual or any situation. We recognize this need to practice interference as the power trip of our false self...
With trust, we acknowledge our own wisdom. We remember that we came from the same Source and, therefore, must be like what we came from. We can trust Source to guide us, rather than screw things up with ego’s demands for self-recognition and belief in our superiority. Trust lets us listen rather than take over. Listening allows us to comfortably sit back, knowing that the creative Source of everything is in charge instead of our puny little ego. Shifting from control to trust is so important for our life work." ~ Wayne Dyer
Read More http://www.healyourlife.com/author-dr-wayne-w-dyer/2013/07/wisdom/inspiration/listen-and-trust
Ego: "the goal is not to 'destroy' 'kill' some 'ego', but to make ego porous. stop identifying with it. higher light higher light...
I wrote alot about the ego in the past, because i have an ego ;) lol JUST LIKE ALL OF YOU.
but i didnt save that stuff- lost facebook accounts an loose conversations etc.
Purify and porify - make porous the ego do not totality identify with it as u. u r more. see everyone seems to think that ego is when ur being 'egotisticle' but that was just the latest trick of some smart egos.. ppfft.. where its really at is realizing it. yea. FUCKHEAD>
BEING OFFENDED IS A WEAKNESS OF THE EGO.( ~kirk nugent)
:)
often.. it is just because of this reason i swear... to see which idiot calls it a profanity and acts as if so offended they missed or not saving registering all the other words in the sentence.. thus condemning.. theirselves to non sight.. they see one word in a whole sentence or paragraph.. this sticks in their mind? .. really? what idiots.. u infantile creator.. not creator but reactor...
so really be honest and recognize ego tthen!!!!!!!!!!!! in recognizing it.. u see then recognize u r NOT IT.
an be carefill with this whole dumbass seeing profanities thing.. because i notice not only what i mentioned above. but also i see they dont realize we use ambiguawords fuck , that shit, etc as indeed ambiguawords wherein sometimes its solely because we CBF cant be fucked finding better words because ur not worthy since uv shown u wont see anyway! weve thrown love =bother with right accurate words but yer brainwash denied them so into ambiguaword territory we flow.. u wouldnt see the pearls anyway so bregrugent sometimes these people in conversations so unmovable in your belief yet nothing is backing this brainwash yet so adament.. and ur like hello cant u see yourself?. so why bother we think. an throw some ambiguawords into the conversation. 'suffice to say hes a fuckhead" etc. but thats another story..
higher light higher light..
light? yes well think of your nervous system as lower light. electrical static in some senses... at the end of a 'hard mental day at the office amongs the organic portals - soul less humans". so higher? light? yeh well other repositories? u see? even the galaxy is itself at one level its own single repository akin to your nervous system its nervous system would be made of the stars and planets i guess.. but light=information in this sense 100% so what is being said is let higher repositories of information flow through your lower EGO repository body ego. yea see .. porous not fighting ur ego. u will find only the ego need fight itself the higher repositories needent fight for nought they are always correct to the point. < see >i< 'benjamin couwenberg' didnt think of that just now that was A thought not my thought .. as terrence mckenna once said these r not your thoughts these are THE thoughts of the GAIAN matrix, let it flow through u.. always try open up more..
higher light ..higher light..
"As consciousness begins to transcend the verbal ego-mind it can… integrate the ego mind with all the lower levels. That is, because consciousness is no longer identified with any of these elements to the exclusion of any others, all of them can be integrated: the body, the persona, the shadow, the ego- all can be brought into a higher- order integration."
Atman Project pg. 53 "One contacts and stabilizes on the centaur level, the elements of the gross personality- the body, the ego, the persona, the shadow, the lower chakras- tend to fall into harmony of themselves. For the individual is beginning to transcend them, and thus he ceases to compulsively manipulate and exploit them….This is the stage describes as one of autonomy, of integration, of authenticity, or of self-actualization…."
Atman Project pg.54
"The centaur, the integrated and total self, above and prior to body, mind persona and shadow, but embracing as it were all of them as experiences."
Atman Project pg.54
"The implication is that one's full potential springs from what Rogers calls the "total, ongoing psychophysiological flow" or "total organismic experiencing," and not from any aspect or fragment of that flow- ego, body, superego, self-concept, and so on. In our terms self-actualization is intimately related to the centaur level, and is not directly available to the ego or persona levels."
Atman Project pg.55
"Actual autonomy (and self-actualization) would result, and could only result by definition, with the conscious emergence of this totality- a type of shift of identity from any of the fragments (ego, persona, body) to their prior and higher integration. According to existential thought, when an individual's self is felt or prehended as the prior, total being, he assumes-can assume- responsibility for his entire-being-in-the world….The individual starts to move on the whole, as a whole- and that is what Leslie Faber has called the "spontaneous will." ... more > http://www.kheper.net/topics/Wilber/centaur.html + http://www.imprint.co.uk/Wilber.htm
remember being offended is a weakness of the ego too. so many of you people i notice seem to just see the word ego associated with being overzealous.. theres much more to the story.
http://gblt.webs.com/Ego_Will_Power.htm
but i didnt save that stuff- lost facebook accounts an loose conversations etc.
Purify and porify - make porous the ego do not totality identify with it as u. u r more. see everyone seems to think that ego is when ur being 'egotisticle' but that was just the latest trick of some smart egos.. ppfft.. where its really at is realizing it. yea. FUCKHEAD>
BEING OFFENDED IS A WEAKNESS OF THE EGO.( ~kirk nugent)
:)
often.. it is just because of this reason i swear... to see which idiot calls it a profanity and acts as if so offended they missed or not saving registering all the other words in the sentence.. thus condemning.. theirselves to non sight.. they see one word in a whole sentence or paragraph.. this sticks in their mind? .. really? what idiots.. u infantile creator.. not creator but reactor...
so really be honest and recognize ego tthen!!!!!!!!!!!! in recognizing it.. u see then recognize u r NOT IT.
an be carefill with this whole dumbass seeing profanities thing.. because i notice not only what i mentioned above. but also i see they dont realize we use ambiguawords fuck , that shit, etc as indeed ambiguawords wherein sometimes its solely because we CBF cant be fucked finding better words because ur not worthy since uv shown u wont see anyway! weve thrown love =bother with right accurate words but yer brainwash denied them so into ambiguaword territory we flow.. u wouldnt see the pearls anyway so bregrugent sometimes these people in conversations so unmovable in your belief yet nothing is backing this brainwash yet so adament.. and ur like hello cant u see yourself?. so why bother we think. an throw some ambiguawords into the conversation. 'suffice to say hes a fuckhead" etc. but thats another story..
higher light higher light..
light? yes well think of your nervous system as lower light. electrical static in some senses... at the end of a 'hard mental day at the office amongs the organic portals - soul less humans". so higher? light? yeh well other repositories? u see? even the galaxy is itself at one level its own single repository akin to your nervous system its nervous system would be made of the stars and planets i guess.. but light=information in this sense 100% so what is being said is let higher repositories of information flow through your lower EGO repository body ego. yea see .. porous not fighting ur ego. u will find only the ego need fight itself the higher repositories needent fight for nought they are always correct to the point. < see >i< 'benjamin couwenberg' didnt think of that just now that was A thought not my thought .. as terrence mckenna once said these r not your thoughts these are THE thoughts of the GAIAN matrix, let it flow through u.. always try open up more..
higher light ..higher light..
"As consciousness begins to transcend the verbal ego-mind it can… integrate the ego mind with all the lower levels. That is, because consciousness is no longer identified with any of these elements to the exclusion of any others, all of them can be integrated: the body, the persona, the shadow, the ego- all can be brought into a higher- order integration."
Atman Project pg. 53 "One contacts and stabilizes on the centaur level, the elements of the gross personality- the body, the ego, the persona, the shadow, the lower chakras- tend to fall into harmony of themselves. For the individual is beginning to transcend them, and thus he ceases to compulsively manipulate and exploit them….This is the stage describes as one of autonomy, of integration, of authenticity, or of self-actualization…."
Atman Project pg.54
"The centaur, the integrated and total self, above and prior to body, mind persona and shadow, but embracing as it were all of them as experiences."
Atman Project pg.54
"The implication is that one's full potential springs from what Rogers calls the "total, ongoing psychophysiological flow" or "total organismic experiencing," and not from any aspect or fragment of that flow- ego, body, superego, self-concept, and so on. In our terms self-actualization is intimately related to the centaur level, and is not directly available to the ego or persona levels."
Atman Project pg.55
"Actual autonomy (and self-actualization) would result, and could only result by definition, with the conscious emergence of this totality- a type of shift of identity from any of the fragments (ego, persona, body) to their prior and higher integration. According to existential thought, when an individual's self is felt or prehended as the prior, total being, he assumes-can assume- responsibility for his entire-being-in-the world….The individual starts to move on the whole, as a whole- and that is what Leslie Faber has called the "spontaneous will." ... more > http://www.kheper.net/topics/Wilber/centaur.html + http://www.imprint.co.uk/Wilber.htm
remember being offended is a weakness of the ego too. so many of you people i notice seem to just see the word ego associated with being overzealous.. theres much more to the story.
http://gblt.webs.com/Ego_Will_Power.htm
yes, its time to step up. (Y) , and get out of my own way. (wow isnt this an inherit schizophrenic notion hm? a little polarity in all of us? higher n lower self so to speak, light and dark? one positive in charge making for attraction one negative in charge meaning attraction lose magnetic lose; "we are being pulled through the negative to the positive") ~ben
The ego self, the part that seeks to keep you small and separate, has no interest in your enlightenment at all, and will actively block stepping into your authentic power and truth in order to preserve its own leadership position in your life. The ego itself, is an essential part of the human experience. It is only problematic when it is blocking your growth and expansion, which it frequently does, particularly to those beginning on a spiritual path.
There is a belief that those of masculine energy have more ego than those who are of feminine energy. This is not necessarily the case. Ego presents just as strong in females, just in a different way. The male ego says, “Look at me! I am more special than everyone else!” The female ego says, “Don’t look at me! I am not as special as everyone else!” Make no mistake about it, both are strong manifestations of the ego perpetuating separation consciousness and blocking expansion, truth and highest purpose. (Of course, both male and female can have experiences with both of these, and other manifestations of ego such as fear and doubt, as well – the above is merely a common example.)
So, Dear Ones, remember your true agenda, to grow and expand, to shine brightly in your truth and divinity, and recognize anything that seeks to block that is the least empowered part of yourself trying to sabotage your efforts in its desperate bid to retain control.
Archangel Gabriel,
http://trinityesoterics.com/.../daily-message-wednesday.../ isa:)
By: The Light Messenger
(ED_ identification is also ego, so this person who has channeled here and tagged it as "isa" is identifying as an egoic identity. ~ben consciousazine.com)
The ego self, the part that seeks to keep you small and separate, has no interest in your enlightenment at all, and will actively block stepping into your authentic power and truth in order to preserve its own leadership position in your life. The ego itself, is an essential part of the human experience. It is only problematic when it is blocking your growth and expansion, which it frequently does, particularly to those beginning on a spiritual path.
There is a belief that those of masculine energy have more ego than those who are of feminine energy. This is not necessarily the case. Ego presents just as strong in females, just in a different way. The male ego says, “Look at me! I am more special than everyone else!” The female ego says, “Don’t look at me! I am not as special as everyone else!” Make no mistake about it, both are strong manifestations of the ego perpetuating separation consciousness and blocking expansion, truth and highest purpose. (Of course, both male and female can have experiences with both of these, and other manifestations of ego such as fear and doubt, as well – the above is merely a common example.)
So, Dear Ones, remember your true agenda, to grow and expand, to shine brightly in your truth and divinity, and recognize anything that seeks to block that is the least empowered part of yourself trying to sabotage your efforts in its desperate bid to retain control.
Archangel Gabriel,
http://trinityesoterics.com/.../daily-message-wednesday.../ isa:)
By: The Light Messenger
(ED_ identification is also ego, so this person who has channeled here and tagged it as "isa" is identifying as an egoic identity. ~ben consciousazine.com)
The ego has an insatiable appetite for drama:
"Whenever two or more egos come
together, drama of one kind or another ensues. But even if you live totally
alone, you still create your own drama. When you feel sorry for yourself, that’s
drama....
When you feel guilty or anxious, that’s drama. When you let the past or future
obscure the present, you are creating time, psychological time—the stuff out of
which drama is made."
(Eckhart Tolle)
(my comment on this when i saw it posted was finally some sense in the new age community- i have not read the paragraphs the titles or seven step titles were good enough for me :) save me writing it up)
'Seven Steps for Overcoming Ego’s Hold on You by Wayne Dyer
Here are seven suggestions to help you transcend
ingrained ideas of self-importance. All of these are designed to help prevent
you from falsely identifying with the self-important... ego.
1. Stop being offended.
The
behavior of others isn’t a reason to be immobilized. That which offends you only
weakens you. If you’re looking for occasions to be offended, you’ll find them at
every turn. This is your ego at work convincing you that the world shouldn't be
the way it is. But you can become an appreciator of life and match up with the
universal Spirit of Creation. You can’t reach the power of intention by being
offended. By all means, act to eradicate the horrors of the world, which emanate
from massive ego identification, but stay in peace. As A Course in Miracles
reminds us: Peace is of God, you who are part of God are not at home except in
his peace. Being is of God, you who are part of God are not at home except in
his peace. Being offended creates the same destructive energy that offended you
in the first place and leads to attack, counterattack, and war.
2. Let
go of your need to win.
Ego loves to divide us up into winners and
losers. The pursuit of winning is a surefire means to avoid conscious contact
with intention. Why? Because ultimately, winning is impossible all of the time.
Someone out there will be faster, luckier, younger, stronger, and smarter-and
back you’ll go to feeling worthless and insignificant.
You’re not your
winnings or your victories. You may enjoy competing, and have fun in a world
where winning is everything, but you don’t have to be there in your thoughts.
There are no losers in a world where we all share the same energy source. All
you can say on a given day is that you performed at a certain level in
comparison to the levels of others on that day. But today is another day, with
other competitors and new circumstances to consider. You’re still the infinite
presence in a body that’s another day (or decade) older. Let go of needing to
win by not agreeing that the opposite of winning is losing. That’s ego’s fear.
If your body isn’t performing in a winning fashion on this day, it simply
doesn’t matter when you aren’t identifying exclusively with your ego. Be the
observer, noticing and enjoying it all without needing to win a trophy. Be at
peace, and match up with the energy of intention. And ironically, although
you’ll hardly notice it, more of those victories will show up in your life as
you pursue them less.
3. Let go of your need to be right.
Ego
is the source of a lot of conflict and dissension because it pushes you in the
direction of making other people wrong. When you’re hostile, you’ve disconnected
from the power of intention. The creative Spirit is kind, loving, and receptive;
and free of anger, resentment, or bitterness. Letting go of your need to be
right in your discussions and relationships is like saying to ego, I’m not a
slave to you. I want to embrace kindness, and I reject your need to be right. In
fact, I’m going to offer this person a chance to feel better by saying that
she’s right, and thank her for pointing me in the direction of truth.
When you let go of the need to be right, you’re able to strengthen your
connection to the power of intention. But keep in mind that ego is a determined
combatant. I’ve seen people end otherwise beautiful relationships by sticking to
their need to be right. I urge you to let go of this ego-driven need to be right
by stopping yourself in the middle of an argument and asking yourself, Do I want
to be right or be happy? When you choose the happy, loving, spiritual mood, your
connection to intention is strengthened. These moments ultimately expand your
new connection to the power of intention. The universal Source will begin to
collaborate with you in creating the life you were intended to live.
4.
Let go of your need to be superior.
True nobility isn’t about being
better than someone else. It’s about being better than you used to be. Stay
focused on your growth, with a constant awareness that no one on this planet is
any better than anyone else. We all emanate from the same creative life force.
We all have a mission to realize our intended essence; all that we need to
fulfill our destiny is available to us. None of this is possible when you see
yourself as superior to others. It’s an old saw, but nonetheless true: we are
all equal in the eyes of God. Let go of your need to feel superior by seeing the
unfolding of God in everyone. Don’t assess others on the basis of their
appearance, achievements, possessions, and other indices of ego. When you
project feelings of superiority that’s what you get back, leading to resentments
and ultimately hostile feelings. These feelings become the vehicle that takes
you farther away from intention. A Course in Miracles addresses this need to be
special and superior: Special ness always makes comparisons. It is established
by a lack seen in another, and maintained by searching for, and keeping clear in
sight, all lacks it can perceive.
5. Let go of your need to have
more.
The mantra of ego is more. It’s never satisfied. No matter how
much you achieve or acquire, your ego will insist that it isn’t enough. You’ll
find yourself in a perpetual state of striving, and eliminate the possibility of
ever arriving. Yet in reality you’ve already arrived, and how you choose to use
this present moment of your life is your choice. Ironically, when you stop
needing more, more of what you desire seems to arrive in your life. Since you’re
detached from the need for it, you find it easier to pass it along to others,
because you realize how little you need in order to be satisfied and at
peace.
The universal Source is content with itself, constantly
expanding and creating new life, never trying to hold on to its creations for
its own selfish means. It creates and lets go. As you let go of ego’s need to
have more, you unify with that Source. You create, attract to yourself, and let
it go, never demanding that more come your way. As an appreciator of all that
shows up, you learn the powerful lesson St.Francis of Assisi taught:”…it is in
giving that we receive.” By allowing abundance to flow to and through you, you
match up with your Source and guarantee that this energy will continue to
flow.
6. Let go of identifying yourself on the basis of your
achievements.
This may be a difficult concept if you think you are your
achievements. God writes all the music, God sings all the songs, God builds all
the buildings, God is the source of all your achievements. I can hear your ego
loudly protesting. Nevertheless, stay tuned to this idea. All emanates from
Source! You and that Source are one! You’re not this body and its
accomplishments. You are the observer. Notice it all; and be grateful for the
abilities you’ve accumulated. But give all the credit to the power of intention,
which brought you into existence and which you’re a materialized part of. The
less you need to take credit for your achievements and the more connected you
stay to the seven faces of intention, the more you’re free to achieve, and the
more will show up for you. It’s when you attach yourself to those achievements
and believe that you alone are doing all of those things that you leave the
peace and the gratitude of your Source.
7. Let go of your
reputation.
Your reputation is not located in you. It resides in the
minds of others. Therefore, you have no control over it at all. If you speak to
30 people, you will have 30 reputations. Connecting to intention means listening
to your heart and conducting yourself based on what your inner voice tells you
is your purpose here. If you’re overly concerned with how you’re going to be
perceived by everyone, then you’ve disconnected yourself from intention and
allowed the opinions of others to guide you. This is your ego at work. It’s an
illusion that stands between you and the power of intention. There’s nothing you
can’t do, unless you disconnect from the power source and become convinced that
your purpose is to prove to others how masterful and superior you are and spend
your energy attempting to win a giant reputation among other egos. Do what you
do because your inner voice always connected to and grateful to your Source-so
directs you. Stay on purpose, detach from outcome, and take responsibility for
what does reside in you: your character. Leave your reputation for others to
debate; it has nothing to do with you. Or as a book title says: What You Think
of Me Is None of My Business!'
'Seven Steps for Overcoming Ego’s Hold on You by Wayne Dyer
Here are seven suggestions to help you transcend
ingrained ideas of self-importance. All of these are designed to help prevent
you from falsely identifying with the self-important... ego.
1. Stop being offended.
The
behavior of others isn’t a reason to be immobilized. That which offends you only
weakens you. If you’re looking for occasions to be offended, you’ll find them at
every turn. This is your ego at work convincing you that the world shouldn't be
the way it is. But you can become an appreciator of life and match up with the
universal Spirit of Creation. You can’t reach the power of intention by being
offended. By all means, act to eradicate the horrors of the world, which emanate
from massive ego identification, but stay in peace. As A Course in Miracles
reminds us: Peace is of God, you who are part of God are not at home except in
his peace. Being is of God, you who are part of God are not at home except in
his peace. Being offended creates the same destructive energy that offended you
in the first place and leads to attack, counterattack, and war.
2. Let
go of your need to win.
Ego loves to divide us up into winners and
losers. The pursuit of winning is a surefire means to avoid conscious contact
with intention. Why? Because ultimately, winning is impossible all of the time.
Someone out there will be faster, luckier, younger, stronger, and smarter-and
back you’ll go to feeling worthless and insignificant.
You’re not your
winnings or your victories. You may enjoy competing, and have fun in a world
where winning is everything, but you don’t have to be there in your thoughts.
There are no losers in a world where we all share the same energy source. All
you can say on a given day is that you performed at a certain level in
comparison to the levels of others on that day. But today is another day, with
other competitors and new circumstances to consider. You’re still the infinite
presence in a body that’s another day (or decade) older. Let go of needing to
win by not agreeing that the opposite of winning is losing. That’s ego’s fear.
If your body isn’t performing in a winning fashion on this day, it simply
doesn’t matter when you aren’t identifying exclusively with your ego. Be the
observer, noticing and enjoying it all without needing to win a trophy. Be at
peace, and match up with the energy of intention. And ironically, although
you’ll hardly notice it, more of those victories will show up in your life as
you pursue them less.
3. Let go of your need to be right.
Ego
is the source of a lot of conflict and dissension because it pushes you in the
direction of making other people wrong. When you’re hostile, you’ve disconnected
from the power of intention. The creative Spirit is kind, loving, and receptive;
and free of anger, resentment, or bitterness. Letting go of your need to be
right in your discussions and relationships is like saying to ego, I’m not a
slave to you. I want to embrace kindness, and I reject your need to be right. In
fact, I’m going to offer this person a chance to feel better by saying that
she’s right, and thank her for pointing me in the direction of truth.
When you let go of the need to be right, you’re able to strengthen your
connection to the power of intention. But keep in mind that ego is a determined
combatant. I’ve seen people end otherwise beautiful relationships by sticking to
their need to be right. I urge you to let go of this ego-driven need to be right
by stopping yourself in the middle of an argument and asking yourself, Do I want
to be right or be happy? When you choose the happy, loving, spiritual mood, your
connection to intention is strengthened. These moments ultimately expand your
new connection to the power of intention. The universal Source will begin to
collaborate with you in creating the life you were intended to live.
4.
Let go of your need to be superior.
True nobility isn’t about being
better than someone else. It’s about being better than you used to be. Stay
focused on your growth, with a constant awareness that no one on this planet is
any better than anyone else. We all emanate from the same creative life force.
We all have a mission to realize our intended essence; all that we need to
fulfill our destiny is available to us. None of this is possible when you see
yourself as superior to others. It’s an old saw, but nonetheless true: we are
all equal in the eyes of God. Let go of your need to feel superior by seeing the
unfolding of God in everyone. Don’t assess others on the basis of their
appearance, achievements, possessions, and other indices of ego. When you
project feelings of superiority that’s what you get back, leading to resentments
and ultimately hostile feelings. These feelings become the vehicle that takes
you farther away from intention. A Course in Miracles addresses this need to be
special and superior: Special ness always makes comparisons. It is established
by a lack seen in another, and maintained by searching for, and keeping clear in
sight, all lacks it can perceive.
5. Let go of your need to have
more.
The mantra of ego is more. It’s never satisfied. No matter how
much you achieve or acquire, your ego will insist that it isn’t enough. You’ll
find yourself in a perpetual state of striving, and eliminate the possibility of
ever arriving. Yet in reality you’ve already arrived, and how you choose to use
this present moment of your life is your choice. Ironically, when you stop
needing more, more of what you desire seems to arrive in your life. Since you’re
detached from the need for it, you find it easier to pass it along to others,
because you realize how little you need in order to be satisfied and at
peace.
The universal Source is content with itself, constantly
expanding and creating new life, never trying to hold on to its creations for
its own selfish means. It creates and lets go. As you let go of ego’s need to
have more, you unify with that Source. You create, attract to yourself, and let
it go, never demanding that more come your way. As an appreciator of all that
shows up, you learn the powerful lesson St.Francis of Assisi taught:”…it is in
giving that we receive.” By allowing abundance to flow to and through you, you
match up with your Source and guarantee that this energy will continue to
flow.
6. Let go of identifying yourself on the basis of your
achievements.
This may be a difficult concept if you think you are your
achievements. God writes all the music, God sings all the songs, God builds all
the buildings, God is the source of all your achievements. I can hear your ego
loudly protesting. Nevertheless, stay tuned to this idea. All emanates from
Source! You and that Source are one! You’re not this body and its
accomplishments. You are the observer. Notice it all; and be grateful for the
abilities you’ve accumulated. But give all the credit to the power of intention,
which brought you into existence and which you’re a materialized part of. The
less you need to take credit for your achievements and the more connected you
stay to the seven faces of intention, the more you’re free to achieve, and the
more will show up for you. It’s when you attach yourself to those achievements
and believe that you alone are doing all of those things that you leave the
peace and the gratitude of your Source.
7. Let go of your
reputation.
Your reputation is not located in you. It resides in the
minds of others. Therefore, you have no control over it at all. If you speak to
30 people, you will have 30 reputations. Connecting to intention means listening
to your heart and conducting yourself based on what your inner voice tells you
is your purpose here. If you’re overly concerned with how you’re going to be
perceived by everyone, then you’ve disconnected yourself from intention and
allowed the opinions of others to guide you. This is your ego at work. It’s an
illusion that stands between you and the power of intention. There’s nothing you
can’t do, unless you disconnect from the power source and become convinced that
your purpose is to prove to others how masterful and superior you are and spend
your energy attempting to win a giant reputation among other egos. Do what you
do because your inner voice always connected to and grateful to your Source-so
directs you. Stay on purpose, detach from outcome, and take responsibility for
what does reside in you: your character. Leave your reputation for others to
debate; it has nothing to do with you. Or as a book title says: What You Think
of Me Is None of My Business!'
ego. i dont have one. wrong everybody has. cant be 'killed'. need made porous. identification with it body ego need fall into oneness, and information streams.
oh ho ho hoo oh well.. another revelation .. "dont play with that youll go blind"
~ mum
get it? go blind from the light ? so being overly psychically sexually succumbing makes u go blind.. makes u go into ego too much at stages and can blind clarity of thought. (its true physorg.com held an article i read saying under controlled tests harvard probably i think ti was discovered men cant think properly int he company of a beautiful woman very often)
hence the ala saga of the woman manipulation of mens thought~ numerous scientific studies search physorg.com iv read some
~ mum
get it? go blind from the light ? so being overly psychically sexually succumbing makes u go blind.. makes u go into ego too much at stages and can blind clarity of thought. (its true physorg.com held an article i read saying under controlled tests harvard probably i think ti was discovered men cant think properly int he company of a beautiful woman very often)
hence the ala saga of the woman manipulation of mens thought~ numerous scientific studies search physorg.com iv read some
Even the most diabolical of beings had the seed of Buddha nature within him. His journies and trevails made him very strong and wise, such is the case with you.
There are countless Bodhisattvas and other Light beings whom had 'dark moments' or 'darkness' within and or demons within. such is the case with you.
Falls from Grace presents a radical theory of spirituality, evolution, child development, stages of life, purpose of life, human nature, and the human species. It is a comprehensive theory, which basically turns everything on its head to find the truth. For its premise is that human ego is a filter to truth and so, for the most part, turns truth into falsehood and vice-versa. Thus truth outside of ego, absolute truth—what exists when ego needs are filtered out—often ends up being the opposite of what humans’ egos have propounded as self-evident. Seemingly unimpeachable, these “normal” truths are only convenient truth, in actuality. They are meant to placate and prop up the human ego and have nothing to do with truth outside of that psychological need.
http://mladzema.wordpress.com/2013/06/11/falls-from-grace-introduction-the-radical-rational-view-of-us-and-it-normal-truth-is-convenient-truth-and-is-anything-but-true/
There are countless Bodhisattvas and other Light beings whom had 'dark moments' or 'darkness' within and or demons within. such is the case with you.
Falls from Grace presents a radical theory of spirituality, evolution, child development, stages of life, purpose of life, human nature, and the human species. It is a comprehensive theory, which basically turns everything on its head to find the truth. For its premise is that human ego is a filter to truth and so, for the most part, turns truth into falsehood and vice-versa. Thus truth outside of ego, absolute truth—what exists when ego needs are filtered out—often ends up being the opposite of what humans’ egos have propounded as self-evident. Seemingly unimpeachable, these “normal” truths are only convenient truth, in actuality. They are meant to placate and prop up the human ego and have nothing to do with truth outside of that psychological need.
http://mladzema.wordpress.com/2013/06/11/falls-from-grace-introduction-the-radical-rational-view-of-us-and-it-normal-truth-is-convenient-truth-and-is-anything-but-true/
Take a look at terrence mckennas resonance theory from the time wave.. i feel like leaving the note here... i wont but take a look at that.. and figure it out ..
Its not oh i was scared of a snake last life so hence again i am scared of snake this life. thats ego ego doesnt make it across lifetimes. ego is analogously understood well enough as 'of the body'.
why is it so wrong to be homophobic ?
"Why is it so wrong to be homophobic?
I am homophobic and I justify my opinion on reality, not hate. I feel that a homosexual person is so, because they refuse to accept the natural ways of our instinct. So to say being homosexual is okay is the same as saying everyone on this planet can do this, without consequence. In fact, the consequence of this would be extinction of the human race in one generation. That said, I have a fear of homosexual persuading other to join, which has been happening over the last 50 years.
It is not my job to judge anyone until it comes to my own family. If its okay for one of my children to be persuaded to be a homosexual, then why not all of them? So its okay for me to accept in one generation my bloodline would be lost? "
(ED-so then after reading this ^ i thought oh i see, i have been trying to see the whole "why gay" thing.. so another earthly response with the divine feminine light return seems in sync. and ah so then > "So its okay for me to accept in one generation my bloodline would be lost? " > SO THEN... exactly... more of this earth russling us out of our stubborn ego ways purging through us.. all about the bloodline and body.. these are ego attachments... higher self cares naught of the bloodline family name or the continuation of it thats ego who is attached to that... p.s. see th dissolutive nature of the transcendental post historytimewave future is :D it is like a trip itself here in the future)
From Beyond the Frontier of the Mind by Osho (ego)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s60caPSQgaY&feature=related
Awakening Heartlight Spirit Soul I am presence.avi
(ED- opening the heart light is becoming realized int he framework of the divine-and so hence not organic portal in nature. also see the ego tricks u alot.. she looked beautifully extravagantly happy?.. but no... tricked again...)
Ego - The False Center by osho
The first thing to be understood is what ego is. A child is born. A child is born without any knowledge, any consciousness of his own self. And when a child is born the first thing he becomes aware of is not himself; the first thing he becomes aware of is the other. It is natural, because the eyes open outwards, the hands touch others, the ears listen to others, the tongue tastes food and the nose smells the outside. All these senses open outwards.
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That is what birth means. Birth means coming into this world, the world of the outside. So when a child is born, he is born into this world. He opens his eyes, sees others. 'Other' means the thou. He becomes aware of the mother first. Then, by and by, he becomes aware of his own body. That too is the other, that too belongs to the world. He is hungry and he feels the body; his need is satisfied, he forgets the body.
This is how a child grows. First he becomes aware of you, thou, other, and then by and by, in contrast to you, thou, he becomes aware of himself.
This awareness is a reflected awareness. He is not aware of who he is. He is simply aware of the mother and what she thinks about him. If she smiles, if she appreciates the child, if she says, "You are beautiful," if she hugs and kisses him, the child feels good about himself. Now an ego is born.
Through appreciation, love, care, he feels he is good, he feels he is valuable, he feels he has some significance.
A center is born.
But this center is a reflected center. It is not his real being. He does not know who he is; he simply knows what others think about him. And this is the ego: the reflection, what others think. If nobody thinks that he is of any use, nobody appreciates him, nobody smiles, then too an ego is born: an ill ego; sad, rejected, like a wound; feeling inferior, worthless. This too is the ego. This too is a reflection.
First the mother - and mother means the world in the beginning. Then others will join the mother, and the world goes on growing. And the more the world grows, the more complex the ego becomes, because many others' opinions are reflected.
The ego is an accumulated phenomenon, a by-product of living with others. If a child lives totally alone, he will never come to grow an ego. But that is not going to help. He will remain like an animal. That doesn't mean that he will come to know the real self, no.
The real can be known only through the false, so the ego is a must. One has to pass through it. It is a discipline. The real can be known only through the illusion. You cannot know the truth directly. First you have to know that which is not true. First you have to encounter the untrue. Through that encounter you become capable of knowing the truth. If you know the false as the false, truth will dawn upon you.
Ego is a need; it is a social need, it is a social by-product. The society means all that is around you - not you, but all that is around you. All, minus you, is the society. And everybody reflects. You will go to school and the teacher will reflect who you are. You will be in friendship with other children and they will reflect who you are. By and by, everybody is adding to your ego, and everybody is trying to modify it in such a way that you don't become a problem to the society.
They are not concerned with you.
They are concerned with the society.
Society is concerned with itself, and that's how it should be.
They are not concerned that you should become a self-knower. They are concerned that you should become an efficient part in the mechanism of the society. You should fit into the pattern. So they are trying to give you an ego that fits with the society. They teach you morality. Morality means giving you an ego which will fit with the society. If you are immoral, you will always be a misfit somewhere or other. That's why we put criminals in the prisons - not that they have done something wrong, not that by putting them in the prisons we are going to improve them, no. They simply don't fit. They are troublemakers. They have certain types of egos of which the society doesn't approve. If the society approves, everything is good.
One man kills somebody - he is a murderer.
And the same man in wartime kills thousands - he becomes a great hero. The society is not bothered by a murder, but the murder should be commited for the society - then it is okay. The society doesn't bother about morality.
Morality means only that you should fit with the society.
If the society is at war, then the morality changes.
If the society is at peace, then there is a different morality.
Morality is a social politics. It is diplomacy. And each child has to be brought up in such a way that he fits into the society, that's all. Because society is interested in efficient members. Society is not interested that you should attain to self-knowledge.
The society creates an ego because the ego can be controlled and manipulated. The self can never be controlled or manipulated. Nobody has ever heard of the society controlling a self - not possible.
And the child needs a center; the child is completely unaware of his own center. The society gives him a center and the child is by and by convinced that this is his center, the ego that society gives.
A child comes back to his home - if he has come first in his class, the whole family is happy. You hug and kiss him, and you take the child on your shoulders and dance and you say, "What a beautiful child! You are a pride to us." You are giving him an ego, a subtle ego. And if the child comes home dejected, unsuccessful, a failure - he couldn't pass, or he has just been on the back bench - then nobody appreciates him and the child feels rejected. He will try harder next time, because the center feels shaken.
Ego is always shaken, always in search of food, that somebody should appreciate it. That's why you continuously ask for attention.
You get the idea of who you are from others.
It is not a direct experience.
It is from others that you get the idea of who you are. They shape your center. This center is false, because you carry your real center. That is nobody's business. Nobody shapes it.
You come with it.
You are born with it.
So you have two centers. One center you come with, which is given by existence itself. That is the self. And the other center, which is created by the society, is the ego. It is a false thing - and it is a very great trick. Through the ego the society is controlling you. You have to behave in a certain way, because only then does the society appreciate you. You have to walk in a certain way; you have to laugh in a certain way; you have to follow certain manners, a morality, a code. Only then will the society appreciate you, and if it doesn't, you ego will be shaken. And when the ego is shaken, you don't know where you are, who you are.
The others have given you the idea.
That idea is the ego.
Try to understand it as deeply as possible, because this has to be thrown. And unless you throw it you will never be able to attain to the self. Because you are addicted to the center, you cannot move, and you cannot look at the self.
And remember, there is going to be an interim period, an interval, when the ego will be shattered, when you will not know who you are, when you will not know where you are going, when all boundaries will melt.
You will simply be confused, a chaos.
Because of this chaos, you are afraid to lose the ego. But it has to be so. One has to pass through the chaos before one attains to the real center.
And if you are daring, the period will be small.
If you are afraid, and you again fall back to the ego, and you again start arranging it, then it can be very, very long; many lives can be wasted.
I have heard: One small child was visiting his grandparents. He was just four years old. In the night when the grandmother was putting him to sleep, he suddenly started crying and weeping and said, "I want to go home. I am afraid of darkness." But the grandmother said, "I know well that at home also you sleep in the dark; I have never seen a light on. So why are you afraid here?" The boy said, "Yes, that's right - but that is MY darkness." This darkness is completely unknown.
Even with darkness you feel, "This is MINE."
Outside - an unknown darkness.
With the ego you feel, "This is MY darkness."
It may be troublesome, maybe it creates many miseries, but still mine. Something to hold to, something to cling to, something underneath the feet; you are not in a vacuum, not in an emptiness. You may be miserable, but at least you ARE. Even being miserable gives you a feeling of 'I am'. Moving from it, fear takes over; you start feeling afraid of the unknown darkness and chaos - because society has managed to clear a small part of your being.
It is just like going to a forest. You make a little clearing, you clear a little ground; you make fencing, you make a small hut; you make a small garden, a lawn, and you are okay. Beyond your fence - the forest, the wild. Here everything is okay; you have planned everything. This is how it has happened.
Society has made a little clearing in your consciousness. It has cleaned just a little part completely, fenced it. Everything is okay there. That's what all your universities are doing. The whole culture and conditioning is just to clear a part so that you can feel at home there.
And then you become afraid.
Beyond the fence there is danger.
Beyond the fence you are, as within the fence you are - and your conscious mind is just one part, one-tenth of your whole being. Nine-tenths is waiting in the darkness. And in that nine-tenths, somewhere your real center is hidden.
One has to be daring, courageous.
One has to take a step into the unknown.
For a while all boundaries will be lost.
For a while you will feel dizzy.
For a while, you will feel very afraid and shaken, as if an earthquake has happened. But if you are courageous and you don't go backwards, if you don't fall back to the ego and you go on and on, there is a hidden center within you that you have been carrying for many lives.
That is your soul, the self.
Once you come near it, everything changes, everything settles again. But now this settling is not done by the society. Now everything becomes a cosmos, not a chaos; a new order arises.
But this is no longer the order of the society - it is the very order of existence itself.
It is what Buddha calls Dhamma, Lao Tzu calls Tao, Heraclitus calls Logos. It is not man-made. It is the VERY order of existence itself. Then everything is suddenly beautiful again, and for the first time really beautiful, because man-made things cannot be beautiful. At the most you can hide the ugliness of them, that's all. You can decorate them, but they can never be beautiful.
The difference is just like the difference between a real flower and a plastic or paper flower. The ego is a plastic flower - dead. It just looks like a flower, it is not a flower. You cannot really call it a flower. Even linguistically to call it a flower is wrong, because a flower is something which flowers. And this plastic thing is just a thing, not a flowering. It is dead. There is no life in it.
You have a flowering center within. That's why Hindus call it a lotus - it is a flowering. They call it the one-thousand-petaled-lotus. One thousand means infinite petals. And it goes on flowering, it never stops, it never dies.
But you are satisfied with a plastic ego.
There are some reasons why you are satisfied. With a dead thing, there are many conveniences. One is that a dead thing never dies. It cannot - it was never alive. So you can have plastic flowers, they are good in a way. They are permanent; they are not eternal, but they are permanent.
The real flower outside in the garden is eternal, but not permanent. And the eternal has its own way of being eternal. The way of the eternal is to be born again and again and to die. Through death it refreshes itself, rejuvenates itself.
To us it appears that the flower has died - it never dies.
It simply changes bodies, so it is ever fresh.
It leaves the old body, it enters a new body. It flowers somewhere else; it goes on flowering.
But we cannot see the continuity because the continuity is invisible. We see only one flower, another flower; we never see the continuity.
It is the same flower which flowered yesterday.
It is the same sun, but in a different garb.
The ego has a certain quality - it is dead. It is a plastic thing. And it is very easy to get it, because others give it. You need not seek it, there is no search involved. That's why unless you become a seeker after the unknown, you have not yet become an individual. You are just a part of the crowd. You are just a mob.
When you don't have a real center, how can you be an individual?
The ego is not individual. Ego is a social phenomenon - it is society, its not you. But it gives you a function in the society, a hierarchy in the society. And if you remain satisfied with it, you will miss the whole opportunity of finding the self.
And that's why you are so miserable.
With a plastic life, how can you be happy?
With a false life, how can you be ecstatic and blissful? And then this ego creates many miseries, millions of them.
You cannot see, because it is your own darkness. You are attuned to it.
Have you ever noticed that all types of miseries enter through the ego? It cannot make you blissful; it can only make you miserable.
Ego is hell.
Whenever you suffer, just try to watch and analyze, and you will find, somewhere the ego is the cause of it. And the ego goes on finding causes to suffer.
You are an egoist, as everyone is. Some are very gross, just on the surface, and they are not so difficult. Some are very subtle, deep down, and they are the real problems.
This ego comes continuously in conflict with others because every ego is so unconfident about itself. Is has to be - it is a false thing. When you don't have anything in your hand and you just think that something is there, then there will be a problem.
If somebody says, "There is nothing," immediately the fight will start, because you also feel that there is nothing. The other makes you aware of the fact.
Ego is false, it is nothing.
That you also know.
How can you miss knowing it? It is impossible! A conscious being - how can he miss knowing that this ego is just false? And then others say that there is nothing - and whenever the others say that there is nothing they hit a wound, they say a truth - and nothing hits like the truth.
You have to defend, because if you don't defend, if you don't become defensive, then where will you be?
You will be lost.
The identity will be broken.
So you have to defend and fight - that is the clash.
A man who attains to the self is never in any clash. Others may come and clash with him, but he is never in clash with anybody.
It happened that one Zen master was passing through a street. A man came running and hit him hard. The master fell down. Then he got up and started to walk in the same direction in which he was going before, not even looking back.
A disciple was with the master. He was simply shocked. He said, "Who is this man? What is this? If one lives in such a way, then anybody can come and kill you. And you have not even looked at that person, who he is, and why he did it."
The master said, "That is his problem, not mine."
You can clash with an enlightened man, but that is your problem, not his. And if you are hurt in that clash, that too is your own problem. He cannot hurt you. And it is like knocking against a wall - you will be hurt, but the wall has not hurt you.
The ego is always looking for some trouble. Why? Because if nobody pays attention to you, the ego feels hungry.
It lives on attention.
So even if somebody is fighting and angry with you, that too is good because at least the attention is paid. If somebody loves, it is okay. If somebody is not loving you, then even anger will be good. At least the attention will come to you. But if nobody is paying any attention to you, nobody thinks that you are somebody important, significant, then how will you feed your ego?
Other's attention is needed.
In millions of ways you attract the attention of others; you dress in a certain way, you try to look beautiful, you behave, you become very polite, you change. When you feel what type of situation is there, you immediately change so that people pay attention to you.
This is a deep begging.
A real beggar is one who asks for and demands attention. And a real emperor is one who lives in himself; he has a center of his own, he doesn't depend on anybody else.
Buddha sitting under his bodhi tree...if the whole world suddenly disappears, will it make any difference to Buddha? -none. It will not make any difference at all. If the whole world disappears, it will not make any difference because he has attained to the center.
But you, if the wife escapes, divorces you, goes to somebody else, you are completely shattered - because she had been paying attention to you, caring, loving, moving around you, helping you to feel that you were somebody. Your whole empire is lost, you are simply shattered. You start thinking about suicide. Why? Why, if a wife leaves you, should you commit suicide? Why, if a husband leaves you, should you commit suicide? Because you don't have any center of your own. The wife was giving you the center; the husband was giving you the center.
This is how people exist. This is how people become dependent on others. It is a deep slavery. Ego HAS to be a slave. It depends on others. And only a person who has no ego is for the first time a master; he is no longer a slave. Try to understand this.
And start looking for the ego - not in others, that is not your business, but in yourself. Whenever you feel miserable, immediately close you eyes and try to find out from where the misery is coming and you will always find it is the false center which has clashed with someone.
You expected something, and it didn't happen.
You expected something, and just the contrary happened - your ego is shaken, you are in misery. Just look, whenever you are miserable, try to find out why.
Causes are not outside you. The basic cause is within you - but you always look outside, you always ask:
Who is making me miserable?
Who is the cause of my anger?
Who is the cause of my anguish?
And if you look outside you will miss.
Just close the eyes and always look within.
The source of all misery, anger, anguish, is hidden in you, your ego.
And if you find the source, it will be easy to move beyond it. If you can see that it is your own ego that gives you trouble, you will prefer to drop it - because nobody can carry the source of misery if he understands it.
And remember, there is no need to drop the ego.
You cannot drop it.
If you try to drop it, you will attain to a certain subtle ego again which says, "I have become humble."
Don't try to be humble. That's again ego in hiding - but it's not dead.
Don't try to be humble.
Nobody can try humility, and nobody can create humility through any effort of his own - no. When the ego is no more, a humbleness comes to you. It is not a creation. It is a shadow of the real center.
And a really humble man is neither humble nor egoistic.
He is simply simple.
He's not even aware that he is humble.
If you are aware that you are humble, the ego is there.
Look at humble persons.... There are millions who think that they are very humble. They bow down very low, but watch them - they are the subtlest egoists. Now humility is their source of food. They say, "I am humble," and then they look at you and they wait for you to appreciate them.
"You are really humble," they would like you to say. "In fact, you are the most humble man in the world; nobody is as humble as you are." Then see the smile that comes on their faces.
What is ego? Ego is a hierarchy that says, "No one is like me." It can feed on humbleness - "Nobody is like me, I am the most humble man."
It happened once:
A fakir, a beggar, was praying in a mosque, just early in the morning when it was still dark. It was a certain religious day for Mohammedians, and he was praying, and he was saying, "I am nobody. I am the poorest of the poor, the greatest sinner of sinners."
Suddenly there was one more person who was praying. He was the emperor of that country, and he was not aware that there was somebody else there who was praying - it was dark, and the emperor was also saying:
"I am nobody. I am nothing. I am just empty, a beggar at our door." When he heard that somebody else was saying the same thing, he said, "Stop! Who is trying to overtake me? Who are you? How dare you say before the emperor that you are nobody when he is saying that he is nobody?"
This is how the ego goes. It is so subtle. Its ways are so subtle and cunning; you have to be very, very alert, only then will you see it. Don't try to be humble. Just try to see that all misery, all anguish comes through it.
Just watch! No need to drop it.
You cannot drop it. Who will drop it? Then the DROPPER will become the ego. It always comes back.
Whatsoever you do, stand out of it, and look and watch.
Whatsoever you do - humbleness, humility, simplicity - nothing will help. Only one thing is possible, and that is just to watch and see that it is the source of all misery. Don't say it. Don't repeat it - WATCH. Because if I say it is the source of all misery and you repeat it, then it is useless. YOU have to come to that understanding. Whenever you are miserable, just close the eyes and don't try to find some cause outside. Try to see from where this misery is coming.
It is your own ego.
If you continuously feel and understand, and the understanding that the ego is the cause becomes so deep-rooted, one day you will suddenly see that it has disappeared. Nobody drops it - nobody can drop it. You simply see; it has simply disappeared, because the very understanding that ego causes all misery becomes the dropping. THE VERY UNDERSTANDING IS THE DISAPPEARANCE OF THE EGO.
And you are so clever in seeing the ego in others. Anybody can see someone else's ego. When it comes to your own, then the problem arises - because you don't know the territory, you have never traveled on it.
The whole path towards the divine, the ultimate, has to pass through this territory of the ego. The false has to be understood as false. The source of misery has to be understood as the source of misery - then it simply drops.
When you know it is poison, it drops. When you know it is fire, it drops. When you know this is the hell, it drops.
And then you never say, "I have dropped the ego." Then you simply laugh at the whole thing, the joke that you were the creator of all misery.
I was just looking at a few cartoons of Charlie Brown. In one cartoon he is playing with blocks, making a house out of children's blocks. He is sitting in the middle of the blocks building the walls. Then a moment comes when he is enclosed; all around he has made a wall. Then he cries, "Help, help!"
He has done the whole thing! Now he is enclosed, imprisoned. This is childish, but this is all that you have done also. You have made a house all around yourself, and now you are crying, "Help, help!" And the misery becomes a millionfold - because there are helpers who are also in the same boat.
It happened that one very beautiful woman went to see her psychiatrist for the first time. The psychiatrist said, "Come closer please." When she came closer, he simply jumped and hugged and kissed the woman. She was shocked. Then he said, "Now sit down. This takes care of my problem, now what is your problem?"
The problem becomes multifold, because there are helpers who are in the same boat. And they would like to help, because when you help somebody the ego feels very good, very, very good - because you are a great helper, a great guru, a master; you are helping so many people. The greater the crowd of your followers, the better you feel.
But you are in the same boat - you cannot help.
Rather, you will harm.
People who still have their own problems cannot be of much help. Only someone who has no problems of his own can help you. Only then is there the clarity to see, to see through you. A mind that has no problems of its own can see you, you become transparent.
A mind that has no problems of its own can see through itself; that's why it becomes capable of seeing through others.
In the West, there are many schools of psychoanalysis, many schools, and no help is reaching people, but rather, harm. Because the people who are helping others, or trying to help, or posing as helpers, are in the same boat.
...It is difficult to see one's own ego.
It is very easy to see other's egos. But that is not the point, you cannot help them.
Try to see your own ego.
Just watch it.
Don't be in a hurry to drop it, just watch it. The more you watch, the more capable you will become. Suddenly one day, you simply see that it has dropped. And when it drops by itself, only then does it drop. There is no other way. Prematurely you cannot drop it.
It drops just like a dead leaf.
The tree is not doing anything - just a breeze, a situation, and the dead leaf simply drops. The tree is not even aware that the dead leaf has dropped. It makes no noise, it makes no claim - nothing.
The dead leaf simply drops and shatters on the ground, just like that.
When you are mature through understanding, awareness, and you have felt totally that ego is the cause of all your misery, simply one day you see the dead leaf dropping.
It settles into the ground, dies of its own accord. You have not done anything so you cannot claim that you have dropped it. You see that it has simply disappeared, and then the real center arises.
And that real center is the soul, the self, the god, the truth, or whatsoever you want to call it.
It is nameless, so all names are good.
You can give it any name of your own liking.
Awakening Heartlight Spirit Soul I am presence.avi
(ED- opening the heart light is becoming realized int he framework of the divine-and so hence not organic portal in nature. also see the ego tricks u alot.. she looked beautifully extravagantly happy?.. but no... tricked again...)
Ego - The False Center by osho
The first thing to be understood is what ego is. A child is born. A child is born without any knowledge, any consciousness of his own self. And when a child is born the first thing he becomes aware of is not himself; the first thing he becomes aware of is the other. It is natural, because the eyes open outwards, the hands touch others, the ears listen to others, the tongue tastes food and the nose smells the outside. All these senses open outwards.
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That is what birth means. Birth means coming into this world, the world of the outside. So when a child is born, he is born into this world. He opens his eyes, sees others. 'Other' means the thou. He becomes aware of the mother first. Then, by and by, he becomes aware of his own body. That too is the other, that too belongs to the world. He is hungry and he feels the body; his need is satisfied, he forgets the body.
This is how a child grows. First he becomes aware of you, thou, other, and then by and by, in contrast to you, thou, he becomes aware of himself.
This awareness is a reflected awareness. He is not aware of who he is. He is simply aware of the mother and what she thinks about him. If she smiles, if she appreciates the child, if she says, "You are beautiful," if she hugs and kisses him, the child feels good about himself. Now an ego is born.
Through appreciation, love, care, he feels he is good, he feels he is valuable, he feels he has some significance.
A center is born.
But this center is a reflected center. It is not his real being. He does not know who he is; he simply knows what others think about him. And this is the ego: the reflection, what others think. If nobody thinks that he is of any use, nobody appreciates him, nobody smiles, then too an ego is born: an ill ego; sad, rejected, like a wound; feeling inferior, worthless. This too is the ego. This too is a reflection.
First the mother - and mother means the world in the beginning. Then others will join the mother, and the world goes on growing. And the more the world grows, the more complex the ego becomes, because many others' opinions are reflected.
The ego is an accumulated phenomenon, a by-product of living with others. If a child lives totally alone, he will never come to grow an ego. But that is not going to help. He will remain like an animal. That doesn't mean that he will come to know the real self, no.
The real can be known only through the false, so the ego is a must. One has to pass through it. It is a discipline. The real can be known only through the illusion. You cannot know the truth directly. First you have to know that which is not true. First you have to encounter the untrue. Through that encounter you become capable of knowing the truth. If you know the false as the false, truth will dawn upon you.
Ego is a need; it is a social need, it is a social by-product. The society means all that is around you - not you, but all that is around you. All, minus you, is the society. And everybody reflects. You will go to school and the teacher will reflect who you are. You will be in friendship with other children and they will reflect who you are. By and by, everybody is adding to your ego, and everybody is trying to modify it in such a way that you don't become a problem to the society.
They are not concerned with you.
They are concerned with the society.
Society is concerned with itself, and that's how it should be.
They are not concerned that you should become a self-knower. They are concerned that you should become an efficient part in the mechanism of the society. You should fit into the pattern. So they are trying to give you an ego that fits with the society. They teach you morality. Morality means giving you an ego which will fit with the society. If you are immoral, you will always be a misfit somewhere or other. That's why we put criminals in the prisons - not that they have done something wrong, not that by putting them in the prisons we are going to improve them, no. They simply don't fit. They are troublemakers. They have certain types of egos of which the society doesn't approve. If the society approves, everything is good.
One man kills somebody - he is a murderer.
And the same man in wartime kills thousands - he becomes a great hero. The society is not bothered by a murder, but the murder should be commited for the society - then it is okay. The society doesn't bother about morality.
Morality means only that you should fit with the society.
If the society is at war, then the morality changes.
If the society is at peace, then there is a different morality.
Morality is a social politics. It is diplomacy. And each child has to be brought up in such a way that he fits into the society, that's all. Because society is interested in efficient members. Society is not interested that you should attain to self-knowledge.
The society creates an ego because the ego can be controlled and manipulated. The self can never be controlled or manipulated. Nobody has ever heard of the society controlling a self - not possible.
And the child needs a center; the child is completely unaware of his own center. The society gives him a center and the child is by and by convinced that this is his center, the ego that society gives.
A child comes back to his home - if he has come first in his class, the whole family is happy. You hug and kiss him, and you take the child on your shoulders and dance and you say, "What a beautiful child! You are a pride to us." You are giving him an ego, a subtle ego. And if the child comes home dejected, unsuccessful, a failure - he couldn't pass, or he has just been on the back bench - then nobody appreciates him and the child feels rejected. He will try harder next time, because the center feels shaken.
Ego is always shaken, always in search of food, that somebody should appreciate it. That's why you continuously ask for attention.
You get the idea of who you are from others.
It is not a direct experience.
It is from others that you get the idea of who you are. They shape your center. This center is false, because you carry your real center. That is nobody's business. Nobody shapes it.
You come with it.
You are born with it.
So you have two centers. One center you come with, which is given by existence itself. That is the self. And the other center, which is created by the society, is the ego. It is a false thing - and it is a very great trick. Through the ego the society is controlling you. You have to behave in a certain way, because only then does the society appreciate you. You have to walk in a certain way; you have to laugh in a certain way; you have to follow certain manners, a morality, a code. Only then will the society appreciate you, and if it doesn't, you ego will be shaken. And when the ego is shaken, you don't know where you are, who you are.
The others have given you the idea.
That idea is the ego.
Try to understand it as deeply as possible, because this has to be thrown. And unless you throw it you will never be able to attain to the self. Because you are addicted to the center, you cannot move, and you cannot look at the self.
And remember, there is going to be an interim period, an interval, when the ego will be shattered, when you will not know who you are, when you will not know where you are going, when all boundaries will melt.
You will simply be confused, a chaos.
Because of this chaos, you are afraid to lose the ego. But it has to be so. One has to pass through the chaos before one attains to the real center.
And if you are daring, the period will be small.
If you are afraid, and you again fall back to the ego, and you again start arranging it, then it can be very, very long; many lives can be wasted.
I have heard: One small child was visiting his grandparents. He was just four years old. In the night when the grandmother was putting him to sleep, he suddenly started crying and weeping and said, "I want to go home. I am afraid of darkness." But the grandmother said, "I know well that at home also you sleep in the dark; I have never seen a light on. So why are you afraid here?" The boy said, "Yes, that's right - but that is MY darkness." This darkness is completely unknown.
Even with darkness you feel, "This is MINE."
Outside - an unknown darkness.
With the ego you feel, "This is MY darkness."
It may be troublesome, maybe it creates many miseries, but still mine. Something to hold to, something to cling to, something underneath the feet; you are not in a vacuum, not in an emptiness. You may be miserable, but at least you ARE. Even being miserable gives you a feeling of 'I am'. Moving from it, fear takes over; you start feeling afraid of the unknown darkness and chaos - because society has managed to clear a small part of your being.
It is just like going to a forest. You make a little clearing, you clear a little ground; you make fencing, you make a small hut; you make a small garden, a lawn, and you are okay. Beyond your fence - the forest, the wild. Here everything is okay; you have planned everything. This is how it has happened.
Society has made a little clearing in your consciousness. It has cleaned just a little part completely, fenced it. Everything is okay there. That's what all your universities are doing. The whole culture and conditioning is just to clear a part so that you can feel at home there.
And then you become afraid.
Beyond the fence there is danger.
Beyond the fence you are, as within the fence you are - and your conscious mind is just one part, one-tenth of your whole being. Nine-tenths is waiting in the darkness. And in that nine-tenths, somewhere your real center is hidden.
One has to be daring, courageous.
One has to take a step into the unknown.
For a while all boundaries will be lost.
For a while you will feel dizzy.
For a while, you will feel very afraid and shaken, as if an earthquake has happened. But if you are courageous and you don't go backwards, if you don't fall back to the ego and you go on and on, there is a hidden center within you that you have been carrying for many lives.
That is your soul, the self.
Once you come near it, everything changes, everything settles again. But now this settling is not done by the society. Now everything becomes a cosmos, not a chaos; a new order arises.
But this is no longer the order of the society - it is the very order of existence itself.
It is what Buddha calls Dhamma, Lao Tzu calls Tao, Heraclitus calls Logos. It is not man-made. It is the VERY order of existence itself. Then everything is suddenly beautiful again, and for the first time really beautiful, because man-made things cannot be beautiful. At the most you can hide the ugliness of them, that's all. You can decorate them, but they can never be beautiful.
The difference is just like the difference between a real flower and a plastic or paper flower. The ego is a plastic flower - dead. It just looks like a flower, it is not a flower. You cannot really call it a flower. Even linguistically to call it a flower is wrong, because a flower is something which flowers. And this plastic thing is just a thing, not a flowering. It is dead. There is no life in it.
You have a flowering center within. That's why Hindus call it a lotus - it is a flowering. They call it the one-thousand-petaled-lotus. One thousand means infinite petals. And it goes on flowering, it never stops, it never dies.
But you are satisfied with a plastic ego.
There are some reasons why you are satisfied. With a dead thing, there are many conveniences. One is that a dead thing never dies. It cannot - it was never alive. So you can have plastic flowers, they are good in a way. They are permanent; they are not eternal, but they are permanent.
The real flower outside in the garden is eternal, but not permanent. And the eternal has its own way of being eternal. The way of the eternal is to be born again and again and to die. Through death it refreshes itself, rejuvenates itself.
To us it appears that the flower has died - it never dies.
It simply changes bodies, so it is ever fresh.
It leaves the old body, it enters a new body. It flowers somewhere else; it goes on flowering.
But we cannot see the continuity because the continuity is invisible. We see only one flower, another flower; we never see the continuity.
It is the same flower which flowered yesterday.
It is the same sun, but in a different garb.
The ego has a certain quality - it is dead. It is a plastic thing. And it is very easy to get it, because others give it. You need not seek it, there is no search involved. That's why unless you become a seeker after the unknown, you have not yet become an individual. You are just a part of the crowd. You are just a mob.
When you don't have a real center, how can you be an individual?
The ego is not individual. Ego is a social phenomenon - it is society, its not you. But it gives you a function in the society, a hierarchy in the society. And if you remain satisfied with it, you will miss the whole opportunity of finding the self.
And that's why you are so miserable.
With a plastic life, how can you be happy?
With a false life, how can you be ecstatic and blissful? And then this ego creates many miseries, millions of them.
You cannot see, because it is your own darkness. You are attuned to it.
Have you ever noticed that all types of miseries enter through the ego? It cannot make you blissful; it can only make you miserable.
Ego is hell.
Whenever you suffer, just try to watch and analyze, and you will find, somewhere the ego is the cause of it. And the ego goes on finding causes to suffer.
You are an egoist, as everyone is. Some are very gross, just on the surface, and they are not so difficult. Some are very subtle, deep down, and they are the real problems.
This ego comes continuously in conflict with others because every ego is so unconfident about itself. Is has to be - it is a false thing. When you don't have anything in your hand and you just think that something is there, then there will be a problem.
If somebody says, "There is nothing," immediately the fight will start, because you also feel that there is nothing. The other makes you aware of the fact.
Ego is false, it is nothing.
That you also know.
How can you miss knowing it? It is impossible! A conscious being - how can he miss knowing that this ego is just false? And then others say that there is nothing - and whenever the others say that there is nothing they hit a wound, they say a truth - and nothing hits like the truth.
You have to defend, because if you don't defend, if you don't become defensive, then where will you be?
You will be lost.
The identity will be broken.
So you have to defend and fight - that is the clash.
A man who attains to the self is never in any clash. Others may come and clash with him, but he is never in clash with anybody.
It happened that one Zen master was passing through a street. A man came running and hit him hard. The master fell down. Then he got up and started to walk in the same direction in which he was going before, not even looking back.
A disciple was with the master. He was simply shocked. He said, "Who is this man? What is this? If one lives in such a way, then anybody can come and kill you. And you have not even looked at that person, who he is, and why he did it."
The master said, "That is his problem, not mine."
You can clash with an enlightened man, but that is your problem, not his. And if you are hurt in that clash, that too is your own problem. He cannot hurt you. And it is like knocking against a wall - you will be hurt, but the wall has not hurt you.
The ego is always looking for some trouble. Why? Because if nobody pays attention to you, the ego feels hungry.
It lives on attention.
So even if somebody is fighting and angry with you, that too is good because at least the attention is paid. If somebody loves, it is okay. If somebody is not loving you, then even anger will be good. At least the attention will come to you. But if nobody is paying any attention to you, nobody thinks that you are somebody important, significant, then how will you feed your ego?
Other's attention is needed.
In millions of ways you attract the attention of others; you dress in a certain way, you try to look beautiful, you behave, you become very polite, you change. When you feel what type of situation is there, you immediately change so that people pay attention to you.
This is a deep begging.
A real beggar is one who asks for and demands attention. And a real emperor is one who lives in himself; he has a center of his own, he doesn't depend on anybody else.
Buddha sitting under his bodhi tree...if the whole world suddenly disappears, will it make any difference to Buddha? -none. It will not make any difference at all. If the whole world disappears, it will not make any difference because he has attained to the center.
But you, if the wife escapes, divorces you, goes to somebody else, you are completely shattered - because she had been paying attention to you, caring, loving, moving around you, helping you to feel that you were somebody. Your whole empire is lost, you are simply shattered. You start thinking about suicide. Why? Why, if a wife leaves you, should you commit suicide? Why, if a husband leaves you, should you commit suicide? Because you don't have any center of your own. The wife was giving you the center; the husband was giving you the center.
This is how people exist. This is how people become dependent on others. It is a deep slavery. Ego HAS to be a slave. It depends on others. And only a person who has no ego is for the first time a master; he is no longer a slave. Try to understand this.
And start looking for the ego - not in others, that is not your business, but in yourself. Whenever you feel miserable, immediately close you eyes and try to find out from where the misery is coming and you will always find it is the false center which has clashed with someone.
You expected something, and it didn't happen.
You expected something, and just the contrary happened - your ego is shaken, you are in misery. Just look, whenever you are miserable, try to find out why.
Causes are not outside you. The basic cause is within you - but you always look outside, you always ask:
Who is making me miserable?
Who is the cause of my anger?
Who is the cause of my anguish?
And if you look outside you will miss.
Just close the eyes and always look within.
The source of all misery, anger, anguish, is hidden in you, your ego.
And if you find the source, it will be easy to move beyond it. If you can see that it is your own ego that gives you trouble, you will prefer to drop it - because nobody can carry the source of misery if he understands it.
And remember, there is no need to drop the ego.
You cannot drop it.
If you try to drop it, you will attain to a certain subtle ego again which says, "I have become humble."
Don't try to be humble. That's again ego in hiding - but it's not dead.
Don't try to be humble.
Nobody can try humility, and nobody can create humility through any effort of his own - no. When the ego is no more, a humbleness comes to you. It is not a creation. It is a shadow of the real center.
And a really humble man is neither humble nor egoistic.
He is simply simple.
He's not even aware that he is humble.
If you are aware that you are humble, the ego is there.
Look at humble persons.... There are millions who think that they are very humble. They bow down very low, but watch them - they are the subtlest egoists. Now humility is their source of food. They say, "I am humble," and then they look at you and they wait for you to appreciate them.
"You are really humble," they would like you to say. "In fact, you are the most humble man in the world; nobody is as humble as you are." Then see the smile that comes on their faces.
What is ego? Ego is a hierarchy that says, "No one is like me." It can feed on humbleness - "Nobody is like me, I am the most humble man."
It happened once:
A fakir, a beggar, was praying in a mosque, just early in the morning when it was still dark. It was a certain religious day for Mohammedians, and he was praying, and he was saying, "I am nobody. I am the poorest of the poor, the greatest sinner of sinners."
Suddenly there was one more person who was praying. He was the emperor of that country, and he was not aware that there was somebody else there who was praying - it was dark, and the emperor was also saying:
"I am nobody. I am nothing. I am just empty, a beggar at our door." When he heard that somebody else was saying the same thing, he said, "Stop! Who is trying to overtake me? Who are you? How dare you say before the emperor that you are nobody when he is saying that he is nobody?"
This is how the ego goes. It is so subtle. Its ways are so subtle and cunning; you have to be very, very alert, only then will you see it. Don't try to be humble. Just try to see that all misery, all anguish comes through it.
Just watch! No need to drop it.
You cannot drop it. Who will drop it? Then the DROPPER will become the ego. It always comes back.
Whatsoever you do, stand out of it, and look and watch.
Whatsoever you do - humbleness, humility, simplicity - nothing will help. Only one thing is possible, and that is just to watch and see that it is the source of all misery. Don't say it. Don't repeat it - WATCH. Because if I say it is the source of all misery and you repeat it, then it is useless. YOU have to come to that understanding. Whenever you are miserable, just close the eyes and don't try to find some cause outside. Try to see from where this misery is coming.
It is your own ego.
If you continuously feel and understand, and the understanding that the ego is the cause becomes so deep-rooted, one day you will suddenly see that it has disappeared. Nobody drops it - nobody can drop it. You simply see; it has simply disappeared, because the very understanding that ego causes all misery becomes the dropping. THE VERY UNDERSTANDING IS THE DISAPPEARANCE OF THE EGO.
And you are so clever in seeing the ego in others. Anybody can see someone else's ego. When it comes to your own, then the problem arises - because you don't know the territory, you have never traveled on it.
The whole path towards the divine, the ultimate, has to pass through this territory of the ego. The false has to be understood as false. The source of misery has to be understood as the source of misery - then it simply drops.
When you know it is poison, it drops. When you know it is fire, it drops. When you know this is the hell, it drops.
And then you never say, "I have dropped the ego." Then you simply laugh at the whole thing, the joke that you were the creator of all misery.
I was just looking at a few cartoons of Charlie Brown. In one cartoon he is playing with blocks, making a house out of children's blocks. He is sitting in the middle of the blocks building the walls. Then a moment comes when he is enclosed; all around he has made a wall. Then he cries, "Help, help!"
He has done the whole thing! Now he is enclosed, imprisoned. This is childish, but this is all that you have done also. You have made a house all around yourself, and now you are crying, "Help, help!" And the misery becomes a millionfold - because there are helpers who are also in the same boat.
It happened that one very beautiful woman went to see her psychiatrist for the first time. The psychiatrist said, "Come closer please." When she came closer, he simply jumped and hugged and kissed the woman. She was shocked. Then he said, "Now sit down. This takes care of my problem, now what is your problem?"
The problem becomes multifold, because there are helpers who are in the same boat. And they would like to help, because when you help somebody the ego feels very good, very, very good - because you are a great helper, a great guru, a master; you are helping so many people. The greater the crowd of your followers, the better you feel.
But you are in the same boat - you cannot help.
Rather, you will harm.
People who still have their own problems cannot be of much help. Only someone who has no problems of his own can help you. Only then is there the clarity to see, to see through you. A mind that has no problems of its own can see you, you become transparent.
A mind that has no problems of its own can see through itself; that's why it becomes capable of seeing through others.
In the West, there are many schools of psychoanalysis, many schools, and no help is reaching people, but rather, harm. Because the people who are helping others, or trying to help, or posing as helpers, are in the same boat.
...It is difficult to see one's own ego.
It is very easy to see other's egos. But that is not the point, you cannot help them.
Try to see your own ego.
Just watch it.
Don't be in a hurry to drop it, just watch it. The more you watch, the more capable you will become. Suddenly one day, you simply see that it has dropped. And when it drops by itself, only then does it drop. There is no other way. Prematurely you cannot drop it.
It drops just like a dead leaf.
The tree is not doing anything - just a breeze, a situation, and the dead leaf simply drops. The tree is not even aware that the dead leaf has dropped. It makes no noise, it makes no claim - nothing.
The dead leaf simply drops and shatters on the ground, just like that.
When you are mature through understanding, awareness, and you have felt totally that ego is the cause of all your misery, simply one day you see the dead leaf dropping.
It settles into the ground, dies of its own accord. You have not done anything so you cannot claim that you have dropped it. You see that it has simply disappeared, and then the real center arises.
And that real center is the soul, the self, the god, the truth, or whatsoever you want to call it.
It is nameless, so all names are good.
You can give it any name of your own liking.
Ben Williams31 minutes ago · Wrote this a bit ago, read something that made me think of it so im posting:
Ok, i wanted to get this out of me, to see if i can kinda write it down...and i kinda did, so here we go!!!!! weeeeeeee!!!!
we go about our lives believing we are separate from everything else, a single entity completely cut off from the rest of the world... maybe we are not...consider this: when we get hit by a car we say he hit me...is the car the 'he' that hit you'? of course its not... is the car anything different from an arm or a hand hitting you? what makes an arm yours? you control it maybe? its connected to you? so what happens if i cut it off? If that arm was you, do you cease being you since its now gone? of course not. So what's happening here? When we have an extension of our body we include it, and when it contracts we exclude it... Our identity is rewritten...over and over and over again...in a bid to suit our lives we lead, to think we have control over the external world, to think we understand it. this seems to me like its all to satisfy our ego, a sense of self that arises as a consequence of learning how to survive and interact with the world as we turn from a cell, into a fully grown human being. I firmly believe we are at a point in time when we are starting to see this ‘consequence’ really as a ‘condition’ that, we, together as humanity (or more likely as sub-cultures of humanity in the first instance), can rewrite and transcend. Here, i dont mean ‘ego’ as in confidence or self esteem...but more akin to the psychoanalytic version... the part of the mind that mediates the conscious and unconscious with forms such as defense mechanisms created by the ego so anxiety/discomfort is minimised to a bearable level in the conscious mind. (I needed to think about this a fair bit to even begin to understand it...)
Similarly, do you think that thoughts are yours? any more or less than the arm you now have lost was yours? This is hard to think about, considering our culture especially... but here we go. you were born, and for the human being to learn to function in the physical world it needs to limit its perception of things into little bits. To function the subject needs to split up ultimate reality into categories, knowable physical objects that the body carrying our consciousness needs in order to survive in physical reality. Thats an arm, thats a leg, thats a chair, thats a drink... etc. the baby is conceived with no separation from the 'ooze' of which the universe sits (quantum foam, god, tao, ultimate reality, one life etc, it has had many names)...every 'form' arises from this place of unity and as it arises it is not separate from anything else that has, does or will exist...its all one, its all god, its the eternal tao... CONFUSING! anyway... … in order to function in the world the baby needs to separate and divide everything up into ‘knowable’ bits. the baby is conceived and at that moment it starts to 'form'. (science has recently shown that baby's conditioning starts, at most, 3 months after conception)...At birth it doesn't know any words or any concepts or any'thing'... it is all taught to them by their environment...their environment conditions them...their parents, their families, as they get older their teachers, peers, television, every single comment from every single person they meet, every single experience, waking or in dreams, shapes their understanding of all these concepts that we automatically assume everyone sees the same way... (but the truth is we dont. we understand every word, every sentence, OUR way, bringing a multitude of concepts, understandings, beleifs, roles, objectives etc with us as we filter what our senses are perceiving). all of a sudden (at maybe 5 or so at a guess) the things they themselves think and say start to effect the train of culture that is creating the way that specific human being thinks and behaves...
So, from this perspective, a perspective beyond this physical world of desires, fears, primal needs etc, one can see that the way they think, and thus thoughts they have, are a product of this process inside all of us needed for us to survive at an animalistic/basic/physical level. Our ancestors evolved to be conditioned in such a way so a monkey->human can learn everything it needs to to survive as an animal. Our awareness as humans have reached a point now, for thousands, most likely tens of thousands of years (maybe more): we can easily still survive without these conditions. and its almost like, as our need to rely on basic animal instincts to survive slowely diminished, we had more time (maybe even desire) to be social, and our basic instincts kinda remained but switched from physical survival to social survival, a social instinct of protection...the ego. But we have the capacity to see this process and move past it in ways, maybe entirely.
So anyway, with this hightened awareness we can go beyond this conditioning now, we can recognise how we learn, we can even recognise that how we end up from how we learn is due to a basic animalistic level of survival, one that we don't need to hang onto anymore... so, (if we are to strive for our best; survive the next 100 or so years; fix all this shit thats going on here etc) with this information one can see there is another stage that we should consciously add to our conditioning, in a bid to wipe that need to continue conditioned (and thus take control of our own conditioning rather than the conditioning of our selves controlling us) and in a bid to see it for the illusion that it is...
ok, so if none of those things we thought were really us, our thoughts, our hobbies, our views, our car, our job, our children, our lover...what are we really? The awareness that can observe everything, void of conditioned reactions/egoic reactions; from the consolidation of years of thoughts into a specific ideology, to the raising of beautiful children into independent adults, to the creation of a work of art... again, these things happen through us they are not us; we are the point in which these things are perceived by our senses, and filtered through our senses, then our senses ‘store’ them in the body as memories, ‘this is why i love you darling’ becomes a memory stored through the filter of your brain which your conditioning has told you the manners which you just witnessed in your partner are a favourable quality for a companion...these memories and opinions are not us...we are the point of perception before filtration, the part before judgements and labels of this world are created (and therefore in this space we are free of any harm or restraint the minds labelling can leave room for the ego to attach itself too); we are the awareness which watches our ‘selves’ and our ‘lives’. (Im not trying to downplay material/physical living here either...) As far as I see, negative emotion (and forced/egoic/conditoned ‘positive’ emotion) is simply our conditioned reactions to things we have falsely mistook as ours or our ’selves’ (a relationship breakdown, a death, loss of job, mass death on the otherside of the world in war) these things are not us nor do they belong to us, because there is no seperation... there is no good/bad, good/bad as two seperate things is even the wrong way of seeing it, good and bad are both one and the same as they are a spectrum, a polarity, they are not opposites...this idea of duality/polarity took a while for me to think id kinda grasped it... also, what is good/bad to you is just your conditioning telling you how your false sense of a separate self (ego) is going to be reduced (like loss of an arm), or added too (a promotion at work)... but there is no separation, this is illusion.. the ego grasps onto this one whole and illegitimately rips it into two to serve its primitive function, favouring one end of the spectrum and denying the other, to try to prove to your awareness that your ego is infact ‘you’.
I know im making some leaps in logic here... im not trying to be logical. this realm of understanding seems kinda irrelevant to our idea of modern scientific rational logic, although im not sure. On another level, words, are forms, and are detracting from the true, formless meaning of (in the words of Tolle) ‘the eternal place where these words point to...the words are just pointers to the unspeakable, unknowable truth’. Also, maybe im an absolute fucking lunatic!! I do feel that way at times! This is a very loose peice of writing... Anyway, i could go on forever, wanted to maybe spark some discussion, possibly meet up with people who want to discuss this kind of thing, or people who feel similar and just want to hang out. If so, message me! I’m keen! I’m over beating around the bush... Have a good one :) Peace.Unlike · · Unfollow Post
Ok, i wanted to get this out of me, to see if i can kinda write it down...and i kinda did, so here we go!!!!! weeeeeeee!!!!
we go about our lives believing we are separate from everything else, a single entity completely cut off from the rest of the world... maybe we are not...consider this: when we get hit by a car we say he hit me...is the car the 'he' that hit you'? of course its not... is the car anything different from an arm or a hand hitting you? what makes an arm yours? you control it maybe? its connected to you? so what happens if i cut it off? If that arm was you, do you cease being you since its now gone? of course not. So what's happening here? When we have an extension of our body we include it, and when it contracts we exclude it... Our identity is rewritten...over and over and over again...in a bid to suit our lives we lead, to think we have control over the external world, to think we understand it. this seems to me like its all to satisfy our ego, a sense of self that arises as a consequence of learning how to survive and interact with the world as we turn from a cell, into a fully grown human being. I firmly believe we are at a point in time when we are starting to see this ‘consequence’ really as a ‘condition’ that, we, together as humanity (or more likely as sub-cultures of humanity in the first instance), can rewrite and transcend. Here, i dont mean ‘ego’ as in confidence or self esteem...but more akin to the psychoanalytic version... the part of the mind that mediates the conscious and unconscious with forms such as defense mechanisms created by the ego so anxiety/discomfort is minimised to a bearable level in the conscious mind. (I needed to think about this a fair bit to even begin to understand it...)
Similarly, do you think that thoughts are yours? any more or less than the arm you now have lost was yours? This is hard to think about, considering our culture especially... but here we go. you were born, and for the human being to learn to function in the physical world it needs to limit its perception of things into little bits. To function the subject needs to split up ultimate reality into categories, knowable physical objects that the body carrying our consciousness needs in order to survive in physical reality. Thats an arm, thats a leg, thats a chair, thats a drink... etc. the baby is conceived with no separation from the 'ooze' of which the universe sits (quantum foam, god, tao, ultimate reality, one life etc, it has had many names)...every 'form' arises from this place of unity and as it arises it is not separate from anything else that has, does or will exist...its all one, its all god, its the eternal tao... CONFUSING! anyway... … in order to function in the world the baby needs to separate and divide everything up into ‘knowable’ bits. the baby is conceived and at that moment it starts to 'form'. (science has recently shown that baby's conditioning starts, at most, 3 months after conception)...At birth it doesn't know any words or any concepts or any'thing'... it is all taught to them by their environment...their environment conditions them...their parents, their families, as they get older their teachers, peers, television, every single comment from every single person they meet, every single experience, waking or in dreams, shapes their understanding of all these concepts that we automatically assume everyone sees the same way... (but the truth is we dont. we understand every word, every sentence, OUR way, bringing a multitude of concepts, understandings, beleifs, roles, objectives etc with us as we filter what our senses are perceiving). all of a sudden (at maybe 5 or so at a guess) the things they themselves think and say start to effect the train of culture that is creating the way that specific human being thinks and behaves...
So, from this perspective, a perspective beyond this physical world of desires, fears, primal needs etc, one can see that the way they think, and thus thoughts they have, are a product of this process inside all of us needed for us to survive at an animalistic/basic/physical level. Our ancestors evolved to be conditioned in such a way so a monkey->human can learn everything it needs to to survive as an animal. Our awareness as humans have reached a point now, for thousands, most likely tens of thousands of years (maybe more): we can easily still survive without these conditions. and its almost like, as our need to rely on basic animal instincts to survive slowely diminished, we had more time (maybe even desire) to be social, and our basic instincts kinda remained but switched from physical survival to social survival, a social instinct of protection...the ego. But we have the capacity to see this process and move past it in ways, maybe entirely.
So anyway, with this hightened awareness we can go beyond this conditioning now, we can recognise how we learn, we can even recognise that how we end up from how we learn is due to a basic animalistic level of survival, one that we don't need to hang onto anymore... so, (if we are to strive for our best; survive the next 100 or so years; fix all this shit thats going on here etc) with this information one can see there is another stage that we should consciously add to our conditioning, in a bid to wipe that need to continue conditioned (and thus take control of our own conditioning rather than the conditioning of our selves controlling us) and in a bid to see it for the illusion that it is...
ok, so if none of those things we thought were really us, our thoughts, our hobbies, our views, our car, our job, our children, our lover...what are we really? The awareness that can observe everything, void of conditioned reactions/egoic reactions; from the consolidation of years of thoughts into a specific ideology, to the raising of beautiful children into independent adults, to the creation of a work of art... again, these things happen through us they are not us; we are the point in which these things are perceived by our senses, and filtered through our senses, then our senses ‘store’ them in the body as memories, ‘this is why i love you darling’ becomes a memory stored through the filter of your brain which your conditioning has told you the manners which you just witnessed in your partner are a favourable quality for a companion...these memories and opinions are not us...we are the point of perception before filtration, the part before judgements and labels of this world are created (and therefore in this space we are free of any harm or restraint the minds labelling can leave room for the ego to attach itself too); we are the awareness which watches our ‘selves’ and our ‘lives’. (Im not trying to downplay material/physical living here either...) As far as I see, negative emotion (and forced/egoic/conditoned ‘positive’ emotion) is simply our conditioned reactions to things we have falsely mistook as ours or our ’selves’ (a relationship breakdown, a death, loss of job, mass death on the otherside of the world in war) these things are not us nor do they belong to us, because there is no seperation... there is no good/bad, good/bad as two seperate things is even the wrong way of seeing it, good and bad are both one and the same as they are a spectrum, a polarity, they are not opposites...this idea of duality/polarity took a while for me to think id kinda grasped it... also, what is good/bad to you is just your conditioning telling you how your false sense of a separate self (ego) is going to be reduced (like loss of an arm), or added too (a promotion at work)... but there is no separation, this is illusion.. the ego grasps onto this one whole and illegitimately rips it into two to serve its primitive function, favouring one end of the spectrum and denying the other, to try to prove to your awareness that your ego is infact ‘you’.
I know im making some leaps in logic here... im not trying to be logical. this realm of understanding seems kinda irrelevant to our idea of modern scientific rational logic, although im not sure. On another level, words, are forms, and are detracting from the true, formless meaning of (in the words of Tolle) ‘the eternal place where these words point to...the words are just pointers to the unspeakable, unknowable truth’. Also, maybe im an absolute fucking lunatic!! I do feel that way at times! This is a very loose peice of writing... Anyway, i could go on forever, wanted to maybe spark some discussion, possibly meet up with people who want to discuss this kind of thing, or people who feel similar and just want to hang out. If so, message me! I’m keen! I’m over beating around the bush... Have a good one :) Peace.Unlike · · Unfollow Post
- Marcus Michael Horvath Why do we need to see it all as one? The buddhists speak of what you've written, well, something similar but it sounds like your putting way too much thought into it. To destroy or overcome the ego through practise of eliminating the idea of 'self' is their goal, or something like that6 minutes ago via mobile · Edited · Like
- Marcus Michael Horvath ...i know why we need to see it all as 'one', but just curious as to what you idea of it is, as it seems that you missed that out. Or maybe I didn't read it all properly2 minutes ago via mobile · Like
- Ben Couwenberg yeh like u can put too much thought into things ..orff.. dats how we progression. the goal is porous ego not destroy yourselfabout a minute ago · Like
- Ben Couwenberg walter russels -the secret of light on scribd.com
- Ben Williams yeah thought takes away from the experience of what im trying to explain,
although it serves a purpose to explain the state. The rational
understanding is opposed to it, but points towards it, so people can
kinda hone in on it, or see if they are honing
in on it... I find it hard to explain to people simply, or i dont like
too, cause it usually just sounds like the generic hippy shit we read
everywhere. But if you know it you can see the worth in the most hippy
shit youve read if it is aligned with this idea... You dont have to see
it as one, on many levels it most certainly isnt. but i guess this is
could be ultimate level...right underneath all of those mental processes
and neurons firing, its pure awareness without the neurons and memory and
judgements of the ego body effecting it?? hard to explain.. What do you
mean what my idea of it is??
yeah ben, porous, so it just floats through you... i used to see it as elimination of the ego, but that really makes me think self destruction these days...5 minutes ago · Like - Ben Williams yeah i got that downloaded ready to read lol, in a few years :s if anyone wants it ill get a link to the download of it4 minutes ago · Like
- Ben Couwenberg yeh thinking doesnt hinder it.. lol.. your trying to parse code and create altered new language- fishing in the great sea
still single light whence all light in motion cometh is equatable to "god" when god means supreme everything the omnipotent etc etc not all light which is in motion. walter russels the secret of lights good reading. nuenomonous not phenomenous is requiring "parsing" into phenomenous language .. but thats right
and 'god ""SAID"" or it got parsed into english language.. haha 'when man knoweth he is me he is me"
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ohhh no ;) this is not here by accident ;) try to keep up with the subtle hints..
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